2015 – 2018 ThinkPads | 2019 Spring

Image Credit digmorepaka#9032 – Electrifying T480

On *70 series ThinkPads, I split the search specifying the Skylake & Kaby Lake variants for the sake of price accuracy. About 30% of listings do not contain processor type, so they were not able to be included in the listing.

Google Spreadsheet – Now including first four digits of the MTM.

For the list, I am adding info from the PSREF. 🙂

Buying these used instead of brand new

• Most of these should be in very good condition unless it had some mishap like cracked LCD.
• Due to how how recent these are, quite a number of these laptops will be coming off the first deployment.
• Lenovo warranties are 1 year to 3 years, so you can check serial numbers if these are still under warranty! Additionally you should be

Why choose these late model ThinkPads

• Some have pill proof keyboard or backlit keys
• Great keyboard feel for ThinkPad newcomers, & modern hardware.
• Good durability, & functional matte black design
• Battery life is great unless you bring MacBooks in.
• GOAT pointing stick that lets your hands stay close to ‘home row’. 
• DVD Drives are nonexistant in these series.
• ThinkLight removed… 
• Great Linux compatibility, various guides, programs, & scripts specifically for ThinkPads
• Well maintained due to being business laptops, most are written off & auction starts at low prices due to so much inventory
• Easy serviceability, abundance of parts, & repair guides.

Looking at laptops via their size/function

• Medium Size – T450 to T480, T25, L380, A475, A485, L480 to L580.
• Big Screen – T550 to T570, L550 to L580.
• Small & Portable – X250 to X280, A275, A285,
• Ultrabooks – T450s to T480s, & any X1 
• Pen Enabled Tablet – X1 Tablet(s), & Yoga (Wacom drivers on most)
• Workstations – P50, P51, P52, P70, P71, P72
• Portable Workstations – W550s, P50s, P51s, P52s, T460p, T470p, P40 Yoga, P1, X1 Extreme
• Shrugs – E Series, Yoga X380, 11e, & 13 Chromebook
• ThinkPad 13 prices are not in here, because I cannot zero in on that particular model, I get results for any 13″ ThinkPad. Search modifiers don’t seem to help much either… so is not here 🙁

I want a laptop with a powerful processor

If you’re looking for a laptop for work, school or general things, any laptop here with a Core i5 processor will suit your needs. If you already have a laptop from 2012 to 2014, and you are looking for significant performance boost, consider a laptop with a Kaby Lake CPU and skip the Broadwell or Skylake. Intel’s 4th Gen Haswell processors offer stellar computing performance, and it became apparent that the Broadwell and Skylake CPUs were not trying to push the envelope. With Kaby Lake we finally see a decent performance gap, and the Kaby Lake R variant, the quadcores feel like night and day to previous processors. These laptops are less modular than previous iterations, which means no processor upgrades!

Some laptops have better single core performance than others. Some programs better utilize one processor core, so in this case the higher turbo boost GHz the better, in theory at least. Likewise some programs utilize dual or quad cores better, or like to be memory hungry which requires more RAM. Graphics heavy programs will require dedicated graphics. But don’t get stuck at needing the fastest or best, a local used desktop will obliterate a used laptop from the same year/gen made with similar configurations… Here is a list of SOME CPUs to look out for that offer pretty good performance that are available in ThinkPads.

• Skylake – i5-6440HQ, i7-6820HQ, E3-1505M v5, E3-1575M v5
• Kaby Lake – i5-7440HQ, i7-7820HQ, E3-1505M v6, E3-1535M v6
• Kaby Lake R – i5-8350U, i7-8650U
• Coffee Lake – i5-8400H, i7-8850H, i9-8950HK, E-2176M, E-2186M
• Items in bold are sixcore and have 12M Cache

I want a laptop that is quick and loads fast

If you’re looking purely for fast booting speed, you’ll want to get an Solid State Drive rather than a Hard Drive. Although SATA SSDs were a lot faster than regular HDDs, new m.2 format SSDs are a lot faster, first there was AHCI then came NVMe, select laptops only have the latter. Here are some anecdotal boot times with Windows 10 Pro, from pressing power to the desktop (drivers loaded up and no hour glass pointer):

• 5400RPM HDD – 65 seconds
• 7200RPM HDD – 48 seconds
• 2.5″ SATA III SSD – 32 seconds
• mSATA SSD – 32 seconds
• m.2 AHCI SSD – 20 seconds
• m.2 NVMe 3.0 x2 – 12 seconds
• m.2 NVME 3.0 x4 – 8 seconds

ThinkPads with Skylake CPUs & later can accept NVMe SSDs. However most of Lenovo’s ‘cheaper’ ThinkPads have only PCIe 3.0 x2 lanes in them and the ‘premium’ ones have PCIe 3.0 x4. One would think the x4 units should have about twice the performance because it has twice the lanes of x2. For mosts tasks the difference is minuscule and PCIe 3.0 x2 is a considerable difference if you’re coming from SATA SSD. There is an exception though, if you’re working with large data being processed weekly, then I’d say for you to consider the premium. Consider going NVMe

• Transferring data in/out of the laptop via SD Card, XCD, USB 3.0, or Gigabit Ethernet if doing it daily
• Loading a level on a game, like YUEG loading times cut in half (am I vague enough?)
• rendering 4K video
• Adobe Photoshop or Lightroom: Editing multiple 35MP+ photos, very significant if editing HDR photos from bracketed RAW format images
• People who want to save time on Access if large files are stored in drive
• Database software if the laptop is being used as the server (Intuit Quickbooks, Plex?)

What about a Ryzen powered ThinkPad?

Currently these ThinkPads here (written halfway into the 2019 ThinkPads update), do not have that super powerful Ryzen CPUs that some other laptops come with. The Ryzen 7 PRO 2700U does go toe to toe with i7-7700U, i7-8650U & Xeon E3-1268L V5, and the Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U isn’t too far behind either. Its integrated graphics I’m not sure how it stacks up against Intel HD. I haven’t come across these nor have I been able to do side by side comparisons, so I’m withholding judgment. :3

Pricing Guide

The following is what you should expect with what you paid for. If some of these things are missing, its not recommended to pay that price. I vet out the obvious scam and broken as hell laptops when it comes to the bottom price. If there is a laptop that is absurdly priced, it might not be included unless it has a few examples sold by a reputable seller.

There are 8 laptops of which I have two prices for, the second price is a higher end unit. In the eBay search field, I added “i7” (IPS, 16GB, 256GB, 512GB, 500GB, 750GB, 1TB), which yields results that has i7 in the listing title & any of those modifiers in the parenthesis.

Low     – Broken, ugly and/or laptop only without RAM/HDD/AC/BATT
Mid      – May have HDD, maybe working battery, & AC adapter.
High     – HDD or SSD w/ OS, good battery, higher spec.
# Sold   – How many sold in the last 3 months. The higher the better (300 great) or 0 means very uncommon or rare on eBay.
Why I don’t have a EX++ pricing for all? Because either they were just a little bit pricer than my high recommendation or just didn’t set the bar.

Hardware

Broadwell – 5th Gen Core, very energy efficient, decent processing & price.
Skylake – 6th Gen Core, ??? more battery life than previous, decent graphics.
Kaby Lake – 7th Gen Core, really good battery life,
Kaby Lake R – 8th Gen Core, performance is way better than previous
Sky/Kaby – 6th & 7th Gen
Kabs – 7th & 8th Gen
AMD Pro – E10, E12 AMD CPUs, non Ryzen.
Ryzen 2K – Ryzen 2000 Pro series CPUs, excellent performance/price.
S – Soldered CPU (all of these are soldered)
Q – Quadcore by default (Q- if option)
H – Sixcore by default (H- if option)
M – Ultra Low Voltage CPU (Core M Family), Passively cooled
X – Xeon CPU option & can use ECC RAM
0 – 0 RAM slots, soldered RAM 🙁
1 – 1 RAM slot (and maybe one soldered module)
4 – 4 RAM slots
No number there – 2 RAM slots

Lists

• Best Value – Consider this if you’re only unsure what to buy
• Longterm – What I’d buy if I one from the list
• Memory – RAM type first, how many modules it can take, then models that support it. RAM limits & speed not listed
• Storage – Storage type first, then laptops that support that option.
  • All NVMe listed laptops should support SATA/ACHI cards.
  • Sadly m.2 key & physical dimensions are not listed at this time. e.g. 2280B, 2248M.
• Display – Model type first, then display options
  • base LCD listed first
  • IPS signifies if thats an IPS panel for that resolution option.
  • Touchscreen resolution(s) included, but it is up to you to confirm if its a touch panel.
  • Specifics of panel models, compatibility & specs not listed at this time.
• Power – Type of AC adapter it requires & wattage requirement.
  • Barrel – ‘Big Barrel’ type of charger – T6x to T530
  • Slim – Rectangular adapter since the T440
  • USB-C – The new GOAT adapter.
• Then some notes like I did the other times, but not really talking about them much like I did in past pricing.

ThinkPad Business Standard

Here lies the PROTIEN of ThinkPads, T and X series, no W here. The following ThinkPads are an excellent place to start off with for your first ThinkPad or fifth!

14″ Mainstream Business Laptop – T Series

• Best value – T450
• Longterm – T470
• Memory
  • DDR3L 2x | T450 T460
  • DDR4 2x | T470 T480
• Storage
  • 2.5″ – All
  • mSATA | T450
  • NVMe 3.0 x2 | T460, T470, T480
• Display
  • T450 | 720p, 900p, 1080p IPS | Touch 900p
  • T460 | 720p, 1080p IPS | Touch 1080p IPS
  • T470 | 720p, 1080p, 1080p IPS | Touch 1080p IPS
  • T480 | 720p, 1080p IPS, 1440p IPS | Touch 1080p IPS
• Power
  • Slim Tip 45W, 65W | T450, T460, T470 (some)
  • USB-C 45W, 65W | T470 (some), T480
• T25, ThinkPad Anniversary Edition, still very expensive & collectible, basically a T470 with quadcore CPU.

14″ Business Ultrabook – T Series S variant

• Best Value – T460s
• Longterm – T480s
• Memory
  • DDR3L 2x |T450s – 4GB soldered
  • DDR4 2x | T460s, T470s, T480s – 4GB or 8GB soldered
• Storage
  • 2.5″ & m.2 SATA | T450s
  • NVMe 3.0 x4 | T460s, T470s, T480s
• Display
  • T450s | 900p & 1080p IPS | Touch 1080p IPS
  • T460, T470s, T480s | 1080p IPS & 1440p IPS | Toch 1080p IPS
• Power
  • Slim 45W | T450s, T460s T470s
  • Slim 65W | T460s dGPU & some iGPU models
  • USB-C 45W | Some T470s Kaby Lake models
  • USB-C 65W | T480s
• T460s is the only T-Ultrabook with a dGPU option on this list
• T450s, T470s, & T480s are Intel HD/UHD Graphics only

15.6″ Business Mainstream Laptop – T Series

• Value – T560
• Longterm – T570 Kaby Lake because quadcore
• Memory
  • DDR3L 2x | T550, T560
  • DDR4 2x | T570, T580
• Storage
  • 2.5″ – All
    
  • m.2 SATA | T550
  • NVMe 3.0 x2 | T560, T570, T580
• Display
  • T550 T560 | 720p, 1080p IPS, & 3K IPS 15.5″ panel | Touch 3K
  • T570 | 720p, 1080p IPS, 4K IPS | Touch 1080p
  • T580 | 1080p IPS, 4K IPS | Touch 1080p
• The 3K panel uses a different sized LCD and requires a different lid, about $140 to $250 for this upgrade.
• Power
  • Slim 45W | T550, T560, T570 (all iGPU)
  • Slim 65W | dGPU – T550, T560, T570 & some iGPU
  • USB-C 45W | some T570 Kaby Lake iGPU, uncommon T580 iGPU
  • USB-C 65W | T580 iGPU & dGPU
• All of these ThinkPads have numberpads on the right, which means off center touchpad & trackpoint
• T570, the dGPU was only available as an option for Kaby Lake CPUs
• Quadcore didn’t come back on these until Kaby Lake R. The smaller T460p & T470p had more power than their bigger counterparts.

12.1″ Business Ultraportable Ultrabook – X Series

• The X Series is like… sort of an ultrabook but with less pizzaz, yet it’s not really an Ultraportable anymore 🙁
• Value – X250’s are stupidly cheap
• Longterm – X270 – Because it can have up to 3 drives.
• Memory
  • DDR3L 1x | X250
  • DDR4 1x | X260, X270,
  • DDR4 0x | X280
  • X280’s RAM is soldered in 4GB, 8GB or 16GB modules
• Storage
  • 2.5″ | X250, X260, X270
  • m.2 SATA | X250, *X270 (WWAN slot)
  • NVMe 3.0 x2 | X260, X270
  • NVMe 3.0 x4 | X280
• Display
  • X250 | 720p, 1080p, IPS optional | Touch IPS 720p & 1080p
  • X260, X270 | 720p, 1080p, 1080p IPS | Touch 1080p IPS
  • X280 | 720p, 1080p IPS | Touch 1080p IPS
• Power
  • Slim 45W | X250, X260, X270
  • USB-C 45W | Some X270 Kaby Lakes
  • USB-C 65W | X280
• RIP 12″ X SERIES, the successor is in 13″ size form

12.1″ & 14.1″ AMD Business – Series ThinkPads

• Value – A275
• Longterm – A485 & A285
• Memory
  • DDR4 0x | All (A285 8GB or 16GB soldered)
• Storage
  • 2.5″ | A275, A475, A485
  • NVMe 3.0 x2 | A275, A475
  • NVMe 3.0 x4 | A285, A485
• Display
  • A275, A475, A485 | 720p, 1080p IPS | Touch 1080p IPS
  • A285 | 1080p IPS | Touch 1080p IPS (GOAT)
• Power
  • Slim 45W | A275, A475
  • USB-C 45W | A275, A475 (CTO models?)
  • USB-C 65W | A285, A485
• I’m a bit of a fan of these… hopefully we will get an AMD 8-Core workstation one day. A72?!

Performance ThinkPads

Looking for some more power? Need ISV certified Thonks? These ThinkPads will fit the bill, as for how long they’ll be great for… 2025 I am assuming. Some of these may not be as glorious as the old guard of ‘p’ variants of T, A and R ThinkPads, they still have quite a bit to offer. New to this field is an “ultrabook workstation” basically a ULV CPU w/ Quadro graphics. Gone are the days of getting crap space heater consumerbook with nVidia graphics. Lenovo now has a 14″ Workstation to compete against HP Zbook & Dell Precisions.

15.6″ Workstation ThinkPad – P Series

• Value – P50 if you can go $800 w/ 16GB RAM
• Longterm – P52 w/ i9 or Xeon, at least a P2000 GPU & 4K LCD
• Memory
  • DDR4 4x | P50, P51, P52
  • ECC | Xeon units only
• Storage
  • 2.5″ | All
  • NVMe 3.0 x4 | All – 2 slots
• Display
  • P50, P51 | 1080p IPS, 4K IPS | Touch 1080p IPS
  • P52 | 1080p IPS, 4K IPS | Touch 4K IPS
• Pen Support?
  • ThinkPad Pen Pro 4X80H34887 |P50, P51, P52
  • Lenovo Active Pen 2 w/ Battery 4X80N95873 | P51, P52
  • Lenovo Pen Pro 4X80R02889 | P52
• Power
  • Slim 170W | P50, P51, P52
• Graphics are soldered on these units, again a Precision or ZBook offer GPU longevity due to this. 🙁

17.3″ Desktop Replacement – ThinkPad P Series

• Value – P70 all things considered
• Longterm – P72 if we are going by mid price.
• Memory
  • DDR4 4x | All
  • ECC | Xeon units only
• Storage
  • 2.5″ | All
  • NVMe 3.0 x4 | All (2 slots)
  • Optical Drive (2.5″ caddy upgrade) | P70, P71
• Display
  • P70, P71 | 1080p IPS, 4K | Touch 1080p???
  • P72 | 1080p, 4K (Adobe CG 100%) | Touch 4K???
• Power
  • Slim 170W | P70, P71 (systems with 2GB dRAM for GPUs)
  • Slim 230W | P70, P71, P72
• MXM GPU motherfuckers!!! However LENOVO *nervous smile* has a wonderful whitelist that restricts you from upgrading to GPUs only available for that laptop.
• P70, & P71 have a DVD drive (4th HDD?), and WWAN slot.
• P72 got cucked! No DVD drive, no WWAN & weighs the most. LMAO

14″ Light Workstation – P ThinkPads

• Value – T460p, because P40 costs more due to touchscreen shit
• Longterm – T460p, because lol its GOAT
• Memory
  • DDR3L 1x | P40
  • DDR4 2x| T460p, T470p
• Storage
  • 2.5″ | All
  • NVMe 3.0 x2 | T460p, T470p
• Display
  • P40 | Touch/Pen 1080p IPS
  • T460p| 1080p IPS, 1440p IPS
  • T470p | 1080p IPS, 1440p IPS | Touch 1080p IPS
• Power
  • Slim 65W | P40
  • Slim 90W | T460p, T470p
  • Slim 135W | dGPU – T460p, T470p
• An actual ‘p’ variant that is quadcore and IPS? T460p & T470p don’t disappoint! Though Iris Pro graphics would of been amazing…
• I wish there was a successor for the P40, and yeah dunno where I will put the P40 when there is a… T490p?

15.6″ Mobile Workstation – W & P ThinkPads

• Value – W550s, the 3K panel is wonderful to look at.
• Longterm – P52s, because quadcore.
• Memory
  • DDR3L | W550s, P50s
  • DDR4 | P51s, P52s, P1
• Storage
  • 2.5″ | W550s, P50s, P51s, P52s
  • m.2 SATA | W550s
  • NVMe 3.0 x2 | P50s, P51s, P52s
  • NVMe 3.0 x4 | P1
• Display
  • W550s | 1080p, 3K IPS
  • P50s | 1080p IPS, 3K IPS
  • P51s, P52s, P1 | 1080p IPS, 3K IPS
• Power
  • Slim 65W | W550s, P50s, P51s
  • USB-C 65W | P51s, P52s
  • Slim 135W | P1
• The W550s and P5xs series are basically a T5xx with a Quadro graphics card.
• They only had dual core CPUs, different from quadcore standard W-Series. A T460p, or T470p offer more computing performance.
• I got a bunk W550s I will be reviewing soon <3
• P1 definition – Plus a thousand $$$$
• P1 & X1 Extreme share the same body, P1 has a lower base price, quadro graphics & can be optioned with Xeon CPUs.
• The P1 brings back the centered keyboard and no numberpad. BASED

ThinkPad Flagship – X1 Series

This is a lot for me to say… but the X1 Carbon looks to be evolving into its own brand. Similar to the ‘p’ suffix prestige of the past, and specialized 700 series variants, Lenovo has evolved the X1 Carbon. It’s not just the premium X-Series Thonk no more, it is the high standard ultrabook with MIL-SPEC durability. It’s not only the X1 Carbon, now you can own a premium slate tablet & or a Yoga tablet convertible. Ideal for people who see Ideabooks aren’t up to par and the current ThinkPads don’t offer that sleek style.

14″ Flagship Ultrabook – X1 Carbon

• Value – X1 Carbon 5th Gen w/ Skylake CPU
• Longterm – X1 Carbon 5th Gen w/ Kaby Lake CPU
• Memory
  • DDR3L 0x (4, 8, 16GB) | X1C3
  • LPDDR3 0x (4, 8, 16GB) | X1C4
  • LPDDR3 0x (8, 16GB) | X1C5, X1C6
  • DDR4 2x | X1E
• Storage
  • NVMe 2.0 x4 | X1C3
  • NVMe 3.0 x4 | X1C4, X1C5, X1C6
  • NVMe 3.0 x4 (2 slots) | X1E
• Display
  • X1C3 | 1080p, 1440p IPS | Touch 1440p IPS
  • X1C4, X1C5 | 1080p IPS, 1440p IPS
  • X1C6 | 1080p IPS, 1440p IPS, HDR 1440p IPS Glossy | Touch 1080p IPS
  • 15.6″ X1E | 1080p IPS, HDR 4K IPS | Touch HDR 4K IPS
• Power
  • Flat 45W, 65W | X1C3, X1C4
  • USB-C 45W | X1C5
  • USB-C 65W | X1C5, X1C6
  • Flat 135W – X1E
• X1C tends to evolve with a smaller battery each gen. Match that FRU!
• X1E, for those who want to game on a 1050Ti Ultrabook
• I believe Lenovo is gearing the X1C6+ as a multimedia machine
• “Saucey, it says 14″ ultrabooks, why is the X1 Extreme in here?” WITCH HUNT!
• No touchscreens on the X1C4 or X1C5, because of the X1 Yoga?

14″ Executive Tablet Convertible – X1 Yoga

• Value – X1 Yoga 1st Gen
• Longterm – X1 Yoga 3rd Gen
• Memory
  • LPDDR3 0x (4, 8, 16GB) | X1Y1
  • LPDDR3 0x (8, 16GB) | X1Y2, X1Y3
• Storage
  • NVMe 3.0 x4 | X1Y1, X1Y2, X1Y3
• Display
  • X1Y1 | 1080p IPS, 1440p IPS, 1440p OLED Glossy
  • X1Y2 | 1080p IPS Glossy, 1440p IPS Glossy, 1440p OLED Glossy
  • X1Y3 | 1080p IPS, 1440p IPS, HDR 1440p IPS
• Power
  • Flat 45W, 65W | X1Y1, X1Y2
  • USB-C 65W | X1Y3
• Digitizer (internal silo)
  • ThinkPad Pen Pro (X1 Yoga) 4X80K32539 | X1Y1, X1Y2
  • Lenovo Active Pen 2 4X80N95873 | X1Y3
  • Not a complete list…
• Wow fuck hunting for pen FRUs, there are multiple available for these fuckers BUT ofc there’s only one you want for fit inside the silo.
• When folding back these Yogas, the keyboard depresses into the body, so your keys won’t get harmed or dirty.
• X1Y2 has a ‘narrow bezel’ 1080p option, but I can’t find an image or a review about it.
• Supposedly these OLED panels were amazing to look at, but I don’t know why they stopped bringing them to the X1Y3

Executive Slate Tablet | X1 Tablet Series

• Value – X1T1
• Longterm – X1T2
• Memory
  • LPDDR3 0x (4, 8, 16GB) | X1T1, X1T2
  • LPDDR3 0x (8, 16GB) | X1T3
• Storage
  • NVMe 3.0 x4 | All
• Display
  • X1C1, X1C2 | 12″ FHD+ (2160 x 1440) IPS Glossy
  • X1C3 | 13″ QHD+ (3000 x 2000) IPS Glossy
• Power
  • Flat 45W | X1T1, X1T2
  • USB-C 65W | X1T3
• Digitizer (optional)
  • ThinkPad Pen Pro | X1T1, X1T2, X1T3
  • Lenovo Pen Pro | X1T3
• These have 3:2 display ratio LCDs, finally a tall ThinkPad!
• There is no internal silo for the pens… neat! D:<

Lesser Tier ThinkPads – Yoga, L Series & 11e

I’m not saying these ThinkPads are bad, but they are not the higher quality like other Thonks. L Series is a fair buy nowdays but there were not soo great back then, at least durability wise, they aren’t as strong as other units. Also the Yoga line is a mess, as they introduced a shit load of Yoga models out of nowhere, then cut them out, then… made other models a Yoga variant.

Detailed list info is not included in here because its 4 weeks late & I gotta get started on the next prices. Also I am a bit buzzed at the time of this writing. Have one on me!

11 – 15″ Slate & Convertible Tablet – Helix & ThinkPad Yoga

• Value – Yoga 12
• Longterm – Yoga 460
• Do you even lift? – Yoga 15
• –
• Sorry for the fucked up table list, its a bunch of randos TBH
• Actually… not even going to bother writing what specs these things have. 🙂 ITS HAPPY HOUR MOTHERFUCKERS

13″ Convertible Tablet – ThinkPad Yoga 300 series

• Value – Yoga 270
• Longterm – Yoga L380
• I believe the Yoga X380 brings in a thinner footprint, it must of sold well for them to make Lenovo get rid of a 12″ X Series
• Although I don’t care much for the L Series… THe L380 is pretty rad from the spec sheet and photos.

13″, 14″ Consumer Small Business – ThinkPad L Series

• Value – L450 for wayyyy sure!
• Longterm – L470 Kaby
• Consider ThinkPad 13 prices for the L4xx gen.

15.6″ Consumer Small Business – ThinkPad L Series

• Value – L560
• Longterm – L570 Skylake
• L580 i5 bad, T580 a better price. But if you’re going i7, then perhaps an L580 is better in this regard.
• Not too many of these in the eBay market, however there are quite a bit of them in the CL, LetGo, OfferUP field. Beware of high prices!

11″ Educational & Budget Laptop – ThinkPad 11e Series

• Value – 11e 2nd gen
• Longterm – 11e 4th gen?
• N O T R A C K P O I N T
• Chromebook? I don’t know if these units can be unfucked by the eMMC, boot linux/windows or even get an SSD upgrade.
• Again, I sort of like these, even without a pointing stick.

THINK PICTURES

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We need more, feel free to mention me a photo <3