TPG V8

Hey, I’m burnt out on this, kek. Dunno when the next update will be, this is kind of old too…

Lets get to business, read the old “how to” shit on V7, page too fucking big now.

Old IBM laptops, portables, ThinkPads, PS/55 “thinkpad” clones will be posted to this link. Systems from 1984 to 2001, basically pre T, R, A, X machines. E series? Fuck em, and make your own guide, L Series should suffice for price comparison. πŸ™‚

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oaD3FJqTWnMLXuyhNXQ9t_LeiQdtunM2t59Sg-cyzN8/edit?usp=sharing

There are three prices for each model in this guide!

Model – Link to eBay, sorted lowest to highest, shipping to USA including Worldwide sellers. Search will have modifiers for certain models to zero in on results. Due to this some machines may be omitted all together. Not sure if there’s a way to get all listings possible int he world.

Low– Great deal if fully working, but mostly these can be fixer uppers (needs more $$ parts). Not recommended for your 1st laptop, unless you’re confident with rebuilidng.

Mid β€“ In about the above middle mark of all sold listings (e.g. #270-300 out of 500 sold units) , my recommended price to newcomers. It can be complete & working, maybe with a warranty. Best for people who want a decent, working laptop.

high β€“ Systems with upgraded RAM, CPU, SSD or LCD. In some cases these are near mint condition. You can def pay much more, as in my spreadsheet I have 4th price… Good for people who want the best out of their laptop, & have certain spec requirements.

EX+ – Usually New, refurbished or excellent refurbished laptops. Sometimes high end CPU/GPU/RAM/SSD/LCD configurations, but not always if it’s a NIB older model. Ideal for people who want no fussing with parts, possibly come with Lenovo warranties, or seller guarantees.

#Sold – How many laptops sold within the past 3 months at the time of research. The higher the better, as it means plenty of machines & likely chance of a seller having a BIN undercut or generally good as is auctions. However the older the laptop is, the lower the number usually gets, & in some cases, are sought after & sell for higher, due to eBay alerts for buyers.

MTM – Machine Type Model
Some ThinkPads are just others with different model names on the bezel. Additionally if you’re looking for parts harvesting, you can have a chance with some parts when doing this. Also some sellers will put this down as the ThinkPad model name, so it’s necessary when TP hunting, especially the 90’s ones.

14″ Machines
T Series Standard
R, L Series Economy


The OG Classic!
13.3″ & 14.1″ 4:3
2000 – 2003

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
2647 / T2x All364090175300
T202647135080155205
T212647453131300
T22264755465176240
T2326471586165194324
T3023661865135165214
Researched on 9/27/2023
13.3″ & 14.1″MTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
R302656170
R312656 265722592
R322659 265821148105

TP Forums T20 Max CPU
T30 CPU info
Blink of death
T30 RAM problem
Loose inductor T23
R30 = T21
R31 = T22
R32 = Chassis name for the Third Generation Nissan Skyline. The GT-R spec infamously known as “Godzilla” in circuit & road racing due to its dominance. The lovely RB26DETT straight six engine and four wheel drive… But in this case, we refer the R32 ThinkPad, so it’s equal to the T23 in a way.
R40 = T30 or T40…

14.1″MTMSoldLowMidHIghEX+
R40e2684169
13.3″, 14.1″,
& 15″
R40 All85370115143
R40 P4-M2681 2682
2896
43062100115
R40 P-M2897 2723254
Price researched on November 20th 2023.

2003 – 2006 | 14.1″ & 15″
Pentium M
Classic IBM Thinkpad

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T402373 2378 23791470125180240
T412373 23791862108140242
T422373 2374
2378 2379
3964104195240
T43 All1871 1872 1875
1876 2686 2687
2668 2669
404575130250
Researched on September 28th 2023
14.1″ & 15″MTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
R501834 1830
1829 1836
155
R50e1834 18426365984153
R51Too many154266100165
R51e1843 1844141
R52Too many54986113120
Price researched on November 20th 2023.
Z SeriesMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
Z60t2511 2512
2513 2514
0
Z61t9440 9441
9442 9443
383546
Yeah I know, Z61t is C2D. but the clusterfuck down below?
  • Hardware issues
    • Graphics…
      • GPU issues can be a problem of this era, but if they turn on and go to bios, you should be OK
      • Reflowing the graphics card is quick fix for bad GPUs, but not a solution
    • Southbridge chip Flex
      • Picking up the laptop with one hand can bend the chassis & poof southbridge disconnected
      • Pick it up with two hands to be safe, supposedly T43 fixed this problem
      • R Series don’t have this problem due to a thicker plastic base that doesn’t flex. Its not as sexy as the T Series tho.

T4x SSD info
T43 SATA mod
GPU reflow

2006 – 2010 | 14″ mostly, some 15″ & 15.4″
Core (2) Duo, 3-ish generations
Classic Lenovo ThinkPads, Last of the Old Guard

ModelSoldLowMidHighEX+
T60 All7455100148213
T61525485132178
T61u0
T400615590170240
T400
Libre
7140180220250
Researched in October 2023
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
R60A lot85583118140
R60e0657 0658
0659
55687102150
R61A Fuckton255997130160
R61e7650
7649-22U
142
R61i7732
7650 8932
14426599130
R4007438 7439
7440 7443
745135170
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
SL4002743190
SL400c44130
SL4102842 287433384
researched in October 2023

More graphic problems… T60 have ATI graphics and some people complain about overheating issues, T61 have the infamous nVidia BGA solder failures. But you may get one that was fixed by IBM engineers, or just replaced by another faulty mobo thanks to Lenovo bean counters.

A popular cooling upgrade is using a W500 heatsink & fan, as it’ll fit most systems except the 14″ widescreen i think. L Series have DDR2 RAM I think and build wise are way different than R Series. E Series comes around this ISN”T an E Series friendly website.

2010 – 2015
Core i3, i5, i7 – 1st gen to 4th
Last of the Socketed CPU Machines
Non-“s” T Series….

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T4102516 2518 2519
2522 2537
95557090160
T410i2516 25185225560
T4204177 4178 4179
4180 4236
2246382155230
T420i417894563124170
T420
coreboot
5130200248415
T4302344 2347 23493906590150270
T430
coreboot
new to TPG5175253300444
T430i2344286
T440p20AN 20AW3156385155265
T440/p
libre/core
new to TPG5120225266400
researched in October 2023
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
L4124403 4404
0530 0553 0585
226584104
L4207854 7827 7829144787125
L4302468 2465 2466216085120
L44020AS 20AT726089130200
researched in November 2023
  • DDR3 – T410 thru T430
  • DDR3L – T440p
  • 16:9 – T420 thru T440p (IPS on the T440p as an toption, $$ mod required for T420, T430)

T Series “NuPad” Redesign
“ThinkPads Suck Now”, Macbook Shill era
2013 – 2020

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T44020B6 20B71606690125200
T45020BU 20BV3716393130230
T46020FM 20FN54470104144260
T470 All99884115157275
T470 Sky20JM 20JN39877105150250
T470 Kaby20HD 20HE45285120170300
T2520K7?3780105012501700
T480 All20L5 20L6745140200290375
T480 Kaby20L5 20L623144180210260
T480 Kaby R20L5 20L6650140195285315
Researched October 19th 2023
L45020DS 20DT3675101150187
L46020FU 20FV1277493130190
L470 All12975100148185
L470 ‘Sky’20J4 10J5457089152185
L470 ‘Kaby’20JU 20JV647595130198
L48020LS 20LT89100122185250
L480 Kaby6105120135
L480 Kaby R88100120185250

Yeah, lenovo offered the previous generation CPU on some systems. I couldn’t just fucking do one search, I had to do two, becuase last thing I want is to fuck u over due to lazyness.. I rather do it via ignorance, which was done b4 i found out they had two dif cpus lol

T480 had a USB-C firmware issue where it wont charge, or only slow charge. Or maybe its the T480s, thats all I know that is bad about these but really don’t dwelve deeper than that. Some chud says T440 is better than the T450 because it doesn’t have a LCD whitelist crap, but who cares if you got the IPS display.

AMD
T4xx
MTMSoldLowMIdHighEX+
A47520KL1785110150183
A48520MU
20MV
48136173235350

A Series was essentially a T or X Series machine, but with AMD CPUs. Lenovo eventually just names the “A495” as the T495. I think the E Series had AMD variants that ended w/ 5, while standard Intel machines ended with 0.

2019 to Nao T Series
Now with “Healing BIOS”

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T490 All20N2 20N3
20RX 20RY
678170213270400
T490 Whiskey20N2 20N3545171236280350
T490 Comet20RX 20RY20225270330468
T49520NJ 20NK125230240262310
T14 G1 Intel20S0 20S1232254300390550
T14 G1 Ryzen20UD 20UE62350410475511
T14 G2 Intel20W0 20W1202405490642800
T14 G2 Ryzen20XK 20XL61420549684800
Researched on October 19th to November 19th 2023
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
L49020Q5 20Q629128160210340
L14 G1 Intel20U1 20U257185233300400
L14 G1 Ryzen20U5 20U646160225355480
L14 G2 Intel20X1 20X256302400550620
L14 G2 Ryzen20X4 20X626202324402539
November 2023
  • Currently, Healing Bios will thwart all BIOS locks using a CH14a programmer from flashing the rom. Check the badcaps forum for updates.

T Series Modern
2022 to Current

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T14 G3 Intel21AH 21AJ76543680860950
T14 G3 AMD21CF 21CG30520631784882
T14 G4 Intel21HD 21HE755085010581300
T14 G4 AMD21K3 21K401280
Researched on Halloween and November 29th 2023
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
L14 G3 Intel21C1 21C29230410575660
L14 G3 AMD21C5 21C617320385480630
L14 G4 Intel21H1 21H215001030
L14 G4 AMD21H5 21H60330808
As of Nov. 14th, 2023

T Series Slim

These have a different build than the standard T Series, they are slimmer and are a slight upgrade in some respects. Some come standard with a higher res screen, better battery life, and higher CPU or RAM as standard. In addition to them being slim, there are some that do not have removable ram slots, or even any at all (I think). Additionally, they have different frames and shapes, so most Lenovo specific parts can’t be swapped.

2009 – 2014
“Classic” to Graphite Black

16:10MTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T400s2808 2815
2823
46570100155
T410s2901 2904
2912 2924
16385580142
T410si2904 -CUU
-CVU -CWU,
2901 -AKU
0
16:9
T420s4170 4171
4173 4174
775480111153
T420si????0
T430s2352 2353
2355 2356
8614
1424578140180
T430si????0
T430u8614 3351
3353 3352
6273
7406477143
T431s20AA 20AC155573102129
  • Classic Charger – T400s, T410s, T420s, T430s, T430u
  • Rectangle Slim – T431s, T440s, T450s
  • 1.8″ uSATA – T400s, T410s
  • 2.5″ 7mm SATA – T420s, T430s, T431s, T430u
    • 2nd Drive
      • mSATA – T420s, T430s, T430u
      • m.2 mSATA (B+M key crap) – T431s, T440s, T450s
    • DVD swapped for HDD caddy
      • T400s, T410s, T420s, T430s
  • iGPU only – T431s
  • Screens
    • 16:10 TN – WXGA or WXGA+
      • T400s, T410s
    • 16:9
      • TN 768p
        • T420s, T430s, T430u
      • TN 900p
        • T420s, T430s, T431s
      • 1080p IPS mod chip & cable upgrade
        • T420s, T430s
      • 1080p IPS upgradable
        • T431s
  • IPS Screens – Are mostly 250 or 300 Nits luminance & 700:1 Contrast ratio til T490s
  • Dual BatteriesT400s, T410s, T420s, T430s, (DVD), T440s, T450s, (internal)
  • Two RAM slots – T400s, T410s, T420s, T430s, T430u
  • Soldered RAM + 1 Slot – T431s, T440s, T450s; 20/24GB Max

From Version 6 – T400s is the bargain LibreBoot ThinkPad, cheaper than T400, X61, or X200. I’m assuming not many T400s were produced & the other machines seem to have article, guide & video about them, so they became the ones that were demanded. If you’re really wanting to get something this old… T410s used to be one of the last 16:10 ThinkPads, so if you wanted a T Series, that be it, but given now there’s new 16:10 ThinkPads in 2021, and assuming more, this aint shit now.

First off, these are not β€œREAL CLASSIC IBM” however the T420s, & if you mod it, T430s are the last here to have the 7 Row keyboard layout. The typing feel is a bit better, but it’s not something I’d recommend for college if you’re wanting it to last 4 years & expect it to stay on & standby for 4 classes… you’d probably need an extra battery or two. If you want something in your in your dorm, use it for writing, watching streams & have great durability, nab either of these machines. If you want 8 hours of batter life, The FHD mod kit is not available for these machines, but it is for the normal T420 or T430, cost ya $50 from ThinkPan. If you want to, the T431s can get an FHD IPS panel as an upgrade without any fuss. Remember the T440s has the infamous clickpad, so you can swap it with a T450s.

2013 – 2020
ClickPads, “Nu”-Pads

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T440s20AQ 20AR2686085137190
T450s20BW 20BX3586087130190
TouchPad1623
T460s20F9 20FA68686121180269
T470s All20HF 20HG
20JS 20JT
565100139216330
T470s Skylake20JS 20JT22994120175224
T470s ‘Kaby’20HF 20HG203110138184249
T480s20L7 20L8909152210293410
T480s Kaby20L7 20L80170
T480s K-R20L7 20L8784150195280360
Prices researched in November 2023
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
Yoga 1420DM 20DN?378162
Yoga 46020EL 20EM8580114185249
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
S43033640
S43120AX 20BA25060
S44020AY770106150223
  • Chargers
    • Rectangle Slim – T460s only; some T470s
    • USB-C – T480s only, some T470s
  • IPS Display
    • T440 it wasn’t offered but maybe be able to be upgraded??
    • T450, T440s, T450s it was an option
    • FHD IPS is Standard from T460s
    • optional is FHD Touch, or WQHD,
    • FHD Privacy opt on T480s.
    • 3 IPS options total on all machines.
  • Dual Batteries – On T460s, T470s; only internal battery from T480s on out.
  • QuadCore CPUs – On some T480s machines (8th gen Kaby Lake R) & later, everything before is dualcore
  • dGPU
    • On T460s & most T480s, except EMEA machines.
    • T470s is iGPU only
  • Memory
    • Soldered RAM + 1 slot – T440s, T450s, T460s, T470s, T480s; 20/24GB Max

Pick these ‘s’ models over the standard T Series as they have NVMe 3×4 speeds, as the others have only 3×2 (until the T490) & you’ll need an adapter for them, as they have 2.5″ SATA III bays. T480s is cursed for its USB-C charging port, I think all 8th Gen CPU thinkpads have a fauty power delivery, as there’s reports for other machines having an issue too. Yes there’s a firmware update, however… consider that you may get an eWaste T480s that is being sold for parts due to that being broken. Do I know for a fact buying it, & updating firmware will fix it or not? No. I don’t want to spread FUD, but I also don’t want to advise buying these without knowing 100% its fixable & not an issue. If you’re looking for dedicated graphics, T460s, T480s are ones to get, but honestly a P slim maybe better.

2019 to Current

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T490s20NX 20NY227159184210235
T495s20QJ 20QK36210290339390
T14s
Intel G1
20T0 20T1135275335425567
T14s
AMD G1
20UH 20UJ30224319400483
T14s
G2 Intel
20WM 20WN121380450579739
T14s
G2 Ryzen
20XF 20XG25425520586760
T14s
Intel G3
21BR 21BS505507008501086
T14s
AMD G3
21CQ 21CR22600700821990
T14s
Intel G4
21F6 21F71065090011941585
T14s
AMD G4
21F8 21F908301240
  • T490s, T495s and T14s Gen 1 and 2 use the same motherboard as their X390, X13 counterparts.
  • Processor crap
    • Quadcore Only – T490s, T495s, T14s G2 Intel….
    • Sixcore options – T14s Intel G1, T14s G2 AMD
    • Sixcore by Default – T14s G1 AMD, Fuck yeah
    • Eightcore bragging rights – select T14s AMD Gen 1 & Gen 2.
  • iGPU – On all machines
  • NVMe 3×4 – On all machines… except T14s Gen 2 Intel/AMD are 4×4 supposedly
  • IPS Displays – 5x Options on all Intel machines, 4x options on AMD (5x on G2). Mix of privacy guard, blue light filter, low power & Adobe HDR mixups, too much to go thru. See the flowchart or the specific X1/T14s spreadsheet πŸ™‚
    • UHD IPS – Available as an option on T14s Intel G1 & G2, and G2 AMD
  • USB-C Chargers – On all models, 45W or 65W
  • Only Internal Batteries – On all models, 6 Cell 57Whr Li-Polymer for just about all of them. Unsure if they all share the same part number or similar fitment.

Actually idk if i got this info correct when I wrote this, because I am conflating normal T Series with T-S specs. I think this or the “Normal” T Series has X Series parts. Whatever.

2000 – 2002
A Series – 12″, 14.1″ & 15″
Small Business, Economy & Multimedia

modelsoldlowmidhighEX+
A20m34580115
A21e2120270
A21m25090?130?270
A22e0
A22m160~175

A20m – searching under all categories. shipping is expensive, all units boot, low has no drive, others do
A21e – eastcoast is fair at what they got… although it comes with a 12″ screen lol, I do want it because of that
A21m – haftu on the refurb game… overpriced IMO, i think they are scouraging for units too. but if u get tired of looking for this laptop (or other vintage ThinkPad, they sell a bit) *eyes burn& they use comic sans in the description. my eyes are bleeding, also their white bottom and cardboard backdrop makes it hard to see if there’s any imperfections. especially the sides, as the lightsource is directly above and not in front, so it casts a shadow on the edges…. I just looked at avail units, i got raged that a machine “turns on without a dark screen” but the motherfucker doesn’t SHOW IT FUCKING TURNING ON. new seller that “always leaves positive feedback” but doesn’t… have any feedback given. lmafo
A22e – similar prices to A21e if it happens
A22m – high price is the only sold unit, with 2 bids via Croatia! low price is actuhally an available unit that boots!

Finally I have added the A Series… One of my favorite ThinkPads series! Although the ones I came across don’t have that tight feelin the T2x has, they are the next best thing. These machines were catered to multimedia and small business, and the e variant was a cheaper model to get. Then the R Series came along and was a cheaper machine I believe. All units use the same bottom chassis, the 12″ just has a big ass bezel around the screen, and the 15″ had a modified keyboard bezel & palm rest to accommodate the bigger 15″ screen.

A Series Info (copied from T Series)

  • m = Multimedia – 770 Series successor
  • e = Economy – 300 Series successor
  • LCD – 12.1″ SVGA, 14.1″ XGA & 15.0″ XGA screens (all TFT)
    • A20 thru A22m
      • 15.0″ SXGA+
      • A22m
    • certain mobos accept the LCD upgrade & need the cable to go along with it I think…
  • Max RAM / CPU
    • 512MB DDR & 1GHz PIII
      • All A2x
  • Drives – 9.25mm PATA drives
    • Samsung HM160HC recommended via TP forums
    • IDE to mSATA converters
    • IDE to CF Card (i think u need certain types of ones tho)
  • Hardware issues
    • Blink of Death?
    • Motherboard doesn’t recognize both ram slots
      • something about the solder joint getting loose, may need mobo replacement
  • Three drives
    • Floppy
    • HDD
    • Blank / CD-ROM / DVD-ROM / HDD Caddy
      • 380, 390 & iSeries also have 3 drives too

15″ ThinkPads
A & G Series
T, L, and R Big

IBM Classic Desktop Replacement: 14.1″ & 15″
2001 – 2004 | A Series

12.1″, 14.1″,
& 15″
MTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
A20m262853578104220
A21m26281170101140290
A21e2628 265513553
A22m2628167
A22e2655171
iSeries 18000
14.1″, & 15″
A3026522230308
A312653970171222319
DYEL?
G402384 238855070165
G412881 2882
2886
276117
G50????0
Researched on Halloween 2023

Quick Info

  • CPUs
    • Pentium III Tualatin
      • A30
    • Mobile Pentium 4-M Low Powered “Northwood”
      • A31
    • Mobiel Pentium 4 “Northwood”
      • G40
      • G41
    • Core Duo
      • G50
  • Graphics
    • ATI dGPUs
      • A30
      • A31
    • Intel Integrated Graphics (shitty)
      • G40
      • G41 (if it has a floppy drive)
      • G50
    • nVidia dGPU card (removable)
      • G41 (fan holes on left side of laptop)
  • Screen Options
    • 14.1″ XGA
      • A30
      • A31
      • G40
      • G41
    • 15.0″ XGA or SXGA+
      • All
    • 15.0″ SXGA+ IPS
      • A30
      • A31
  • Drives
    • 2.5″ 9.5mm PATA
      • A30
      • A31
      • G40
      • G41
    • 2.5″ 9.5mm SATA
      • G50
    • DUAL FUCKING ULTRABAYS
      • A30
      • A31
    • NOT SO EASY ULTRABAY REMOVAL?!
      • G40
      • G50
      • G41
  • Hardware Issues
    • Graphics Problems
      • A30
      • A31
        • Some add a copper shim connecting the GPU to the CPU heat sink

A31P MASTER FUCKING THINKPAD. I fucking love my A31p! oh fuck we aren’t at this section yet… fuck. Try to get an IPS A3x system if you can… Some say the G series has a desktop CPU, and I think I fell for it too/ But honestly I’m not sure if it does… I think the confusion is that these fucking CPUs take a lot of power, and some desktops had them for a CPU. What I dislike most about the G Series is that it doesn’t have a docking port, and its actual fucking ports are limited thanks to that… And, for being the most massive fucking laptop (i think a 770 is thicker), it doesn’t have a crazy as fuck videocard… And on the G41, if it did come with the nVidia FX Go5200 (with either 64MB or 128MB), you couldn’t upgrade it… Plus the Dell Precision M60 was a better machine with that card. Oh and if you wanted max Pentium 4 performance… the Compaq nx9600 was probably your best bet. Yeah we are kinda going to workstation terrirory, but still, IBM and even Lenovo never really offered a heavy hitter GPU laptop, even when MXM cards were available, only until the P50 or P70 did they offer something.

4:3 “IBM Classic” 2003 – 2007

IPS?MTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T42 15″???6598590177
T43 15″???859108212410
T60 15″???84567146200
R Series are in the 14″ model line, don’t feel like reposting here
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
Z60m2529 2530
2531 2532
0
Z61m9450 9451
9452 9453
187
Z61e0672 067302351
Prices as of November 22nd 2023
  • Display
    • 15″
      • XGA or SXGA+ IPS
        • T42
        • T43
        • T60
        • R60?
          • UXGA
            • T60
    • 15.4″
    • WXGA
      • T61
      • T500
        • WSXGA+
          • T60
          • T61
          • T500
            • WUXGA
              • T61
              • T500

Widescreen 16:10, to 16.6″
2007 to 2010 – Core (2) Duo – Merom / Penryn

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T61 15.4″A lot755130175285
T500A lot3165100150220
T500 libre1150
Prices as of November 22nd 2023
15.4″ wideMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
R61u7733 77430
R5002714 2716
2717 2718
760107129176
Prices as of November 22nd 2023
L SeriesMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
SL50027461063110140208
SL5102847 287519548090140
L510????058

SL500 – kek these can have nVidia graphics while the T400 & T500 had ATI

15.6″ & 15.5″ 3K
2010 to 2015 – i5, i7

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T5104313 4314
4349 4384
554992130201
T5204239 4240
4241 4242
4243
946096155239
T520i4239255169
T5302392 2394
2429
1547094160276
T530i23590
T540p20BE 20BF2526893150270
Prices as of November 11th 2023
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
L5124444 4447
2597 2598 2550
54676142193
L5207859 5016 50179578094135
L5302481 2485
2478 2479
104480102138
L54020AV 20AU2268140166226
Prices as of November 24th 2023
  • Display
    • HD, HD+ and FHD TFTs
      • All units
        • FHD IPS
          • Some T540p
    • 15.5″ 3K
      • T540p (up to T560 I believe)
  • mSATA
    • T510 thru T530
  • m.2 SATA (B+M Key bs)
    • T540p
  • CLICK FUCKING PAD
    • T540p
    • Can get Coreboot I think?

A few Coreboot T520 machines are starting to pop up. Yeah the damn clickpad on the T540p might affect the prices vs the T530. If you want to go big, a W Series is the way to go, but honestly I like the Elitebook 85xx more.

2015 to 2020
Soldered Processors

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T55020CJ 20CK5576110180250
Yoga 1520DQ755100165
T56020FH 20FJ21088120159250
T570 all20H9 20HA
20JW 20JX
246100129200269
T570 Sky20JW 20JX12990106160225
T570 Kaby20H9 20HA96125144200271
T580 Kaby20LA 20L96105150
T580 Kaby R20LA 20L9306156205270335
Prices as of November 23, 2023
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
L56020F1 20F22981115155194
L570 All20J8 20J9
20JQ 20JR
50104135204
L570 ‘Sky’20JQ 20RJ1581120150274
L570 Kaby20J8 20J93195129152288
L58020LW 20LX36139175205227
Prices as of November 23, 2023
  • m.2 SATA
    • T550
  • NVMe 3.0 x2 via SATAe Caddy
    • T560
    • T570
    • T580
  • UHD IPS option
    • T560 and beyond

2019 to 2023 – Modern Hellscape

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T59020N4 20N5156190260332430
T15 G120S6 20S7100270382461610
T15 G220W4 20W573407550624940
Prices as of November 23, 2023
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
L59020Q7 20Q831148195256500
L15 Intel20U3 20U439220265330450
L15 AMD20U7 20U811205259300520
L15 G2
Intel
20X3 20X436271406520640
L15 G2
AMD
20X7 20X819330400600679
Prices as of November 26th, 2023

2022 – Current

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
L15 G3 Intel21C3 21C421422500639746
L15 G3 AMD21C7 21C8133755076501125
L15 G4 Intel21H3 21H401400
L15 G4 AMD21H7 21H807301270
Prices as of November 26th, 2023

16″ Mainstream

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T16 G1 Intel21BV 21BW7160078210491150
T16 G1 AMD21CH 21CJ25600740800900
T16 G2 Intel21HH 21HJ16933116313011550
T16 G2 AMD21K7 21K8182510001224
Prices as of November 23, 2023

Yeah they are 16″ now, and I think 16:10?

SubNotebook, Ultrabook & Flagship
Must be X Series

Mixing 12″ X Series with S30, most tablet variations, X1 Carbon, X13 & L13 machines.

The X Series was just about equal to the T Series since it’s iteration. Like the old IBM era, it is a true successor to the 500 Series with a bit of 200 mixed in. But for a moment, there was a machine that took the spotlight away from the 500, and it was a great seller; the 701C. The 701C was an ultraportable but it had a fullsize keyboard thanks to the Butterfly mechanism that gave a fuck unlike the shit Apple made. For anniversary editions, there are quite a bit of them in the smaller category. Technically the 700 was a small laptop in comparison to other notebooks, and such the X Series holds the flame. S30/S31 was the 10th anniversary of the ThinkPad, but they did make one with the X30 as well. Next was the ThinkPad Reserve Edition, which was a special version of the X61s with a leather bound case. When Apple unveiled the MacBook Air, Lenovo countered with their own take on an UltraSlim ThinkPad, the X300. It got slimmer and became the X1, and then got slightly bigger and became the X1 Carbon. After a few years, the X1 became it’s own sub-brand to the ThinkPad, being the premier, ultrathin & flagship version of other ThinkPads. I can fucking talk all day about the X Series ThinkPads… they really are something special, unless you really require absolute performance, then maybe not so.

Classic IBM X
Some links fuck up now, so they don’t open a new window…

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
X20255115
X21252
S3026393120140258360
X220
S3126390
TransNote2675~491370770940
X231110
X24
Prices as of Jan 2024, TransNote done in July23 and Jan24.
  • Display
    • SVGA (800 x 600)
      • X20
      • X21
    • XGA
      • All systems here

I do not know much about these machines. No blink of death. Nothing to brag about is that these have a dGPU, because iGPUs weren’t really a thing at this time. X2x Ultrabase can have both a floppy and a CD drive at the same time, IBM quickly changed this “problem” on the X30 revision. TransNote is here because… its basically an X20 with a touchscreen, pen thing. I want that failure so bad. S30 and S31 are RARE as fuck, recently purchased a unit from a collector & thats the high price… it could be higher than that kek. I forget what they were asking on the other units they were selling.

ModelMTMSoldLowmidhighEX+
X302123850
X312672 288455980153306
X402371 2372
2382 2386
9506479109
X412525 2527
2528
64075110
X322672 2884
2885
0

I love the fact that the X40’s performance thanks to the SULV Pentium M and 1.8″ drives sucked so much that IBM had to bring back the machine it replaced. They brought the X32 alongside the X41, yeah! Also Intel Extreme graphics were crap… I know this first hand because I’ve used a G40 and G41 w/ nVidia… it’s a load of differences. At least with the X31 the CPU didn’t need to bother with graphics, that’s where the ATI graphics chip helped out, AND the X32 didn’t even get an upgraded GPU… good times!

Lenovo X Series

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
X601706 1708 170945087129190
X60 Libre387150285
X60s1702 1704 17053486585
X60s Libre0
X617673 7674 7675306080111154
X61s7669 7666 76678437083260
Reserve0
X62 51nb0
January 3rd 2024
TabletMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
X41t1866 1867
1869
55092108180
X60T6363 6364
6366
1178
X61t7762 7763
7767
350103
Jan sixth prices 2024

  • Display
    • XGA
      • All systems here
    • SXGA+
      • X60t
      • X61t (bubbly LCD problem)
  • Vaporware
    • ThinkPad Reserve Edition
  • ULV cpus
    • X40
    • X41
    • X60s
    • X61s
    • ThinkPad Reserve Edition
  • Normal CPUs
    • X32
    • X60
    • X61

Lenovo pressed on with having a ULV CPU machine with the X60s, and the “full powered” CPU on the X60. From there it would have the successors, X61s and X61. But then it wanted to make special anniversary edition for ThinkPads, the Reserve Edition. NOW, it is just a X61s with a leather cased assembly, but at the time it was only catered to a select few clientele and it came with an even faster repair program, with it’s own telephone line, a big deal at the time.

16:10 ThinkPad X
X300 Executive UltraSlim
X200 UltraPortable

12″MTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
X2007454 7455
7458 7459
2380120170325
X200 Libre10102250280341
X200s7465 7466
7469 7470
66096137202
X2013249 3626
2680
436999123167
X201s5143 54970191
X210 51nb0
X2100
10th Gen
11800
prices as of January 2024
TabletMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
X200t7448 7449
7450 7453
985115148210
X201t2985 3093
3113
2470110160224
X220t4294 4296
4298 4299
4282119190240
X230t3437 343865129186215300
S230u
“Twist”
20C4 3347325090130190

SleekMTMSoldLowMidhighEX+
X3006477 6478
4052
43290148169
X3012774 2776
4037
52981111153
  • Hell yea, the X300 Series, best keyboard… or the 25th Anniversary TP
  • X30x have 1.8β€³ SATA bays, so buy a 1.8β€³ to mSATA adapter bc those OG SSDs are expensive, uncommon & have lower disk size volume than newer mSATA types
  • X200 and X201 both use traditional 2.5″ SATA drives, I think they are SATA III speeds idk
  • all these use the classic barrel charger 

65W Big Barrel Charger – On all systems
8GB Max RAM – X300 up to X201
Two batteries – X3xx can have DVD battery, X2xx can have slice battery or thru ultrabase’s ultrabay
iGPU – On all systems, but goddamn the X300 is so lackluster with DDR2 and 1.2GHz CPU… πŸ™
WXGA+ – X300, X301 as standard and select X200s & X201s (Lenovo logo on left of LCD bezel)

Libreboot is making prices for X200 higher than it should, it’s also affecting X301 as well. This also marks the end of the ‘s’ variant for mainstream sales until 2019.

16:9 Ultraportable & Ultrabook Flagship
2011 – 2014

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHIghEX+
X2204287 4290
4291
13572110150207
X220
Coreboot
19140160233350
X220i4286 4287950100140213
E220s5038148
X2302320 2324
2325
13876110170245
X230
Coreboot
19150225280326
X230s
X330 51nb13″ LCD
January 2024

13″MTMSoldLowMidhighEX+
X11286 1291
1293 1294
6488095
Edge 13???23380
14″
X1 Carbon3440 3444
3448 3460
916089133221
December 2nd 2023

12″ Ultrabook & 14″ Ultrabook Flagship
2013 – 2017

12″MTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
X24020AL 20AM3245090116180
X240s0
X25020CL 20CM1260100130250
X250 Has20CL 20CM
X250 Broad20CL 20CM
X26020F5 20F622260
X270 ‘Sky’20K5 20K614252
x270 Kaby20HM 20HN2784200274
January 6th 2024 Prices. No anniversary here in USSR πŸ™‚

Flipping
Tablet
MTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
Yoga S120CD 20C0745071160250
Yoga 1220DK 20DL -Not 20KJ….425680151204
Yoga 26020FD 20FE 20GS19072120180250
Yoga 37020JH 20HH14996162215292
4chan Jannies had striked on the first Sixth of 2024

  • Rectangle Slim Chrger – All systems
  • Soldered RAM – 4GB or 8GB on all systems, max 16GB on X1C3 or X1C4 if you’re lucky
    • + 1 RAM slot – On all X2xx series here
  • Storage
    • 2.5″ SATA – X230 thru X250
      • Secondary 2242 B+M mSATA – X240 to X250
    • SATAe – X260 (only drive)
    • Fucked SSDs – X1C is hella proprietary
    • m.2 SATA – X1C2
    • NVMe 2280 – X1C3 is 2×4, X1C4 is 3×4
  • Meh Display – X1C2 has 900p as default, X1C3 has FHD TN as default
  • FHD IPS default – On X1C4 and onward
  • WQHD IPS – Options on X1C2 thru X1C4
AMDMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
A27520KG6103156
A28520MW 20MX5144171192
1/6/2024
X1C220A7 20A812475105153208
X1C320BS 20BT13081104129190
X1C420FB 20FC317111151225339
X1C5 Sky20K3 20K4134114143199231
X1C5 ‘Kaby’20HQ 20HR156154192249307
December 2nd 2023 prices
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
X1 Yoga20FQ 20FR26247270340400
X1Y220JD 20JE
20JF 20JG
71243318384490
Prices as of twelfth of December 2023

X1 Yoga Gen 1 =X1 Carbon 4
X1 Yoga Gen 2 = X1C5

2018 Refresh

RedesignMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
X280 ALL20KE 20KF7065207300
X280 Kaby20KE 20KF0
X280 K-R20KE 20KF4865207300
L38020M5 20M66872110165230
X1C620KG 20KH470210255353461
X1C6 Kaby20KG 20KH17133149178250
X1C6 K-R20KG 20KH460200267350490
Dec 2023
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
X1Y3 All20LD 20LE
20LF 20LG
206243284400650
X1Y3 Kaby20LD 20LE1790140200300
X1Y3 Kaby R20LD 20LE
20LF 20LG
153240280350490
12/17/2023

X1 Carbon 2012 – 2018 buying guide

2019 to 2021

13.3″ XMTMSoldLowerMid TierHigh AFE X PLUS
X390 All20Q0 20Q1
20SC 20SD
119130190264330
X390
Comet
20Q0 20Q14215330
X390
Whiskey
20SC 20SD102135190264350
X39520NL 20NM18151200250326
X13 Intel G120T2 20T361233306400525
X13 Ryzen20UF 20UG15270317340420
X13 Intel G220WK 20WL51354442520678
X13 Ryzen G220XH 20XJ22300444500658
January sixth, twenty four – because the algorithm
13″ TabletMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
Yoga X38020LH 20LJ115128176212330
Yoga X39020NN 20NQ106168201280400
X13Y120SX 20SY38237300450827
X13Y220W8 20W9333384405201000
Prices as of January 6th 2024

USB-C Chargers – X1C5, X1Y2, X280, A285 some X270. and then all systems later
Rectangle Charger – some X270 systems, all A275
What the fuck? – Yeah TWO CPU generations on a lot of these fucking machines
8GB or 16GB – Max RAM on X1 systems
Display – FHD and WQHD screens on X1C5/6; FHD, WQHD, & UHD on X1C7
Quadcore – On Kaby Lake R, & Whisky Lake, sixcore on i7-10710U X1C7. uh idk on X series machines, I don’t think so… not looking for now πŸ˜€
Healing BIOS – Begins on X1C7…

L SeriesMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
L39020NR 20NS42101150200250
L13
Intel G1
20R3 20R455165210280340
L13
Intel G2
20VH 20VJ67145230338450
L13
AMD G2
21AB 21AC20270370415500
sextuplet of jaundice 2024

L TabletMTMSoldLowMidHIghEX+
Yoga L38020M7 20M878115143219280
Yoga L39020NT 20NU52130162205240
L13Y1 Intel20R5 20R638160200250294
L13 Y2 Intel20VK 20VL54270330500649
L13Y2 AMD21AD 21AE31300385450649
January 6th 2024 prices

X1 CarbonMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
X1C7
Whiskey
20QD 20QE428239309446580
X1C7
Comet
20R1 20R285330400490604
X1C820U9 20UA197380450590743
16:10
X1C920XW 20XX2906007208601300
X1 Nano20UN20UQ72508600780950
Dec 2nd 2023

X1 YogaMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
X1 Yoga 420QF 20QG
20SA 20SB
119289350480552
X1Y4
Whisky
20QF 20QG77255356420500
X1Y4
Comet
20SA 20SB33360430510580
X1Y520UB 20UC54383440534690
14″ 16:10
X1 Yoga 620XY 20Y01695406809231150
3:2 13.5″
X1 Titanium
Yoga
20QA 20QB46400490620800
December 2023

Quadcores – On all machines, except some i7 X1C8, which is sixcore. Wait the Nano has even more lesser powered CPUs, SULV?
Memory – 8 or 16GB RAM configs on all machines, 32GB possible on X1C9
Display– Too much to list, but X1C9 (and later?) is now 16:10 format & Nano has 2K as standard
SSD – 2280 NVMe 3×4 on X1C8, 4×4 on X1C9 and the smaller 2242 3×4 on the X1 Nano & Titanium

2022 and Later Models
Skipping X13 ones

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
X1C 1021CB 21CC19479091912301500
X1C 1121HM 21HN83980114614001750
New Z Series
Z13 G121D2 21D3506008009001100
Z13 G221JV 21JW02070
December sixth 2023 prices

Z Series uses Ryzen CPUs, all iGPU and has the return of the clickpad!

ThinkPad Slate Tablets
2011 – 2021

8″ to 10″MTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
TP Tablet1838 18390
TP Tablet 23679 3682670100
TP 820BN 20BQ0160
TP 10 G120C1 20C3268132
TP 10 G220E3 20E47214889173
11.6″ FHD
Helix3698 3701 37021560104186211
Helix 220CG 20CH260150
12″ 3:2
X1 Tablet20GG292302
X1T220JB 20JC2220351914
13″ 3:2
X1T320KJ64223310380420
12.3″ 3:2
X12 Detachable20UV 20UW4686008781000
Prices on January 6ixth 202four πŸ™‚

  • Android – TP Tablets, TP 8, 10
  • PC – Helix, X1T, X12, X1 Fold
  • RAM
    • 1 GB – TP Tablet 1
    • 2 GB – TP Tablet 2, Tablet 8, Tablet 10 (G1, G2)
    • 4 GB – Helix (1 & 2), Tablet 8, Tablet 10 (G1, G2), X1 Tablet (G1, G2), X12
    • 8 GB – Helix (1 & 2), X1 Tablets (G1, G2, G3), X12, X1 Fold
    • 16GB – X1 Tablet (G1, G2, G3), X12
  • Storage
    • Soldered eMMC – TP Tablet (1, 2), ThinkPad 8″, ThinkPad 10″ (G1, G2)
    • mSATA – Helix
      • m.2 2280
        • NVMe 3×2 – Helix 2
        • NVMe 3×4 – X1 Tablet
      • m.2 2242
        • NVMe 3×4 – X12, X1 Fold
  • Display
    • 16:9
      • HD 1366 x 768
        • 10.1″ – TP Tablet 2
      • FHD 1920 x1080
        • 11.6″ – Helix 1, 2
    • 16:10
      • WXGA 1280 x 800
        • 10.1″ TP Tablet 1
      • WUXGA 1920 x 1200
        • 8.3″ – TP Tablet 8″
        • 10.1″ – TP Tablet 10 (G1, G2)
    • 4:3
      • QXGA 2048 x 1536
        • 13.3″ – X1 Fold
    • 3:2
      • FHD+ 1920 x 1280
        • 12.0″ – X1 Tablet (G1, G2)
        • 12.3″ – X12
      • QHD+ 3000 x 2000
        • 13.0″ – X1 Tablet G3
  • Chargers
    • Micro USB 10W
      • TP Tablet (1, 2), ThinkPad 8″
    • USB-ish 36W
      • Helix 2
    • Rectangle 36W
      • Helix 1
    • “Unique New Connector” 36W
      • ThinkPad 10 (G1, G2)
    • USB-C 45W
      • X1 Tablet (G1, G2, G3
    • USB-C 65W
      • X1 Tablet (G2, G3), X1 Fold

ThinkPad Yoga (some of them)
2014 – 2018

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
Yoga S120CD 20C011070130180250
Yoga 1220DK 20DL5560105150210
Yoga 1420DM (20DN?)460130190230
Yoga 1520DQ30115145170230
Yoga 26020FD 20FE
20GS
230110160215350
Yoga 46020EL 20EM8595162200300
P40 Yoga20GQ 20GR22153240290355
Yoga 37020JH 20HH125125178270360

No notes… at least these are all IPS. I used a Yoga 460 for a bit, didn’t care for how it felt. IPS screen was nice, 1080p, but keyboard feel? Yuck. Studryness? L Series like. As flimsy the S230 Twist was, it FELT a bit durable… but what do i know? P40 has discrete graphics and Yoga 15 might be able to… Supposedly there are an S2, S3 and I think S3 Yoga, but I think they are codewords for some of these machines I have listed.

Performance

Gonna start old school
Then 15″ A, G, T
15″ W to P Series
17″ W and P Series
14″ oddities w/ 15″ Slim (including X1E)

Classic Portables

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+Date
PS/2 P70 38685733280310396600?1989 06
PS/55 5545-T5545-T01990 05
PS/2 P75 486857301990 12

Gas plasma display, wired keyboard, fucking funkey ass case. Check MCA mafia for info on these, good luck.

PS/55 Behemoths

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+Date
5535-YAC01993 05 ?
5535-ZTD01994 07 ?
5535-ZMM01995 08 ?
5535-ZEE01997 06 ?
5535-ZTE01998 03 ?
5535-ZPP01999 08 ?

These machines aren’t laptops, they are more like desktops with a clamshell form factor and they are part of the PS/55 family. So TOTALLY not a ThinkPad, however they are painted in black, have a trackpoint, fuckton of ports, and was probably built in Yamato labs. Yeah its a ThinkPad like the P110 PalmTop is, rather have one of these than that fuckshit L40 SX, oh and my buddy sharktastica has an article about what keyboard it probably has.

800 Series – The PowerPC ThinkPad

PowerPCMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+Release
RS/6000 N40700715001994 03
Power Laptop
EWS
concept?1994 09
800 PReP602001995 01
820604025706301995 07
85060420122551001995 07
821724701996 04
822724701996 04
823724701996 04
851724901996 05
RS/6000
NoteBook 860
724901996 11

Good fucking luck getting these cheap… FUCK me for not seeing the “lot of 2 thinkpads” one was a 600 and another, an 850 or 820, both sold for like $80… FUCK. Anyways, there was one unit being sold for like $1600 that didn’t work and lmafo, it was bc the guy bought a dud. only sold 850 was listed as a “BM PowerPC 850”. I literally hate life, the fuck i am not going to just put random letters of IBM in searches for these things, IMB should be enough. w/e

The 851 (maybe 850) is the one ThinkPad that can have a webcam. It might be the “first” laptop w/ a webcam but I think the Sony Vaio C1 Picturebook beat it out.

A Series Pentium III
Desktop Replacement

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+Release
A20p26290452332000 05
A21p26291301232000 09
A22p292921242842001 04
A30p265311252001 10
Prices as of Halloween 2023.

Pentium 4

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+Release
A31p265312302002 03
G402384 2388555701301652003 4
G412881 2882
2886
376901172152004 10
Prices as of Halloween (A31p) or December 2023

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+Release
R50p1832-23U1991602003 11
T40p2373-G1U0536012025503 2003
T41p2373-GEU
2372-GGU
141621352003 11
T42p2372 2373
2374 2379
1157709025005 2004
T43p2668* 2669*516521341067005 2005
TPG V7 and December 22nd 2023 prices

Memory – 2GB DDR on T40p, T41, 2GB DDR2 on T42p, T43p
PATA Drives – On all (T43p can be SATA if mod), get an IDE to mSATA or CF Card adapter, IDE SSDs are either too old or crap. HM160HC is recommended via TP Forums but may have a speed issue.
SXGA+ or UXGA IPS – Former on 14″ machines, later on 15″ machines, nothing else. As it should be. but god… 150 Nits or 200 nits luminance, for that classic feel. YMMV for LED mod options.
72W “Coax” Charger – Recommended on these machines, maybe you can get away w/ the 60W on the 14″ machines, but not recommended.
Pentium M – Banias CPUs on T40p, T41p; Dolthan on T42p, T43p
ATI GPUs – Classic gaming feel

Thin as fuck. R series not so much, but T40 thru T42 are known to have the bad southbridge chip, that can flex by holding it by one had. IDK if its FUD, but enthusiasts say hold by two hands. It got fixed ont the T43p supposedly…. but yeah. way smaller feeling than the T60, then T61, and W500. Whatever, and when it came to the T430s i own? T43p still felt thinner…. it was like the precursor to the X300 but/… sturdy-ish munus the flex? ok thats ass.

T43p prices have doubled since TPG 7…

Core 2 Duo Classic

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T60p2373 2374
2379
1384103150400
G500
T61p1871 2668
2669
1770100159220
T61F
T601F
R601
3303413425
T70 51nb2007 2623
2008 8744
0
12/22/2023
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T43 ‘IPS’2668 / 2669 / 26873165410670
T60 ‘IPS’5150200380
12/22/2023
  • DDR2
    • 3GB T60p, Z61p, G50
    • 8GB for T61p
  • SATA I Speeds
  • Screens
    • T60p – SXGA+ TN, UXGA IPS, WSXGA+ TN
    • G50 – 15″ XGA
    • Z61p – WUXGA
    • T61p – SXGA+, WXGA+, WSXGA+ or WUXGA for 15″
  • Big Barrel Chargers – On these machines, 90W recommended
  • dGPU
    • All systems except G50
    • Z61p may be the most “safe one”, but ATI systems do sometimes fail
    • T61p is the worst w/ nVidia due to the BGA solder fiasco… ticking timebomb
      • systems or mobo’s built after August 2008 are fine tho (check mobo)
16:10MTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
Z61p9450-3AU
9450-A1U
9452-JRU
1308
W5004062 4061
4063
166580120196
12/22/2023

Buy a W500… but yeah, G50 is fuckign asss ass ass asss ass ass ass. dont buy one, buy the others…. T60p probably one of the best build quality machines you can get… wish they went more robust with it, but w/e…. lighter. Z series is cool too, but doesn’t get that magnesium lid… swap it. Amazingly this system, despite not really vsing the T60p (14″, 15″ and widescreen 15.4″), it had a WUXGA as standard while the T60p didnt… even though it had a UXGA variant, only a WXSXGA+ was available… at least on my notes via PSREF πŸ™‚ G50? XGA ass fuck shit fuck whack fuck u

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
W5104319 4389
4391
2374118150203
W5204270 4276
4282 4284
5392130216320
W5302438 2441
2447
14296150225350
W54020BG 20BH118108166238300
W54120EF 20EG92104150250330
Prices as of December 24th 2023!

  • Display
    • 16:10
      • WXGA – W500, 11: W700ds, W701ds
      • WXGA+ – W700, W701
      • WSXGA+ – W500
      • WUXGA – W500, W700, default on W700ds & W701ds
    • HD, HD+, FHD
      • W510, W520, W530
        • W540/1 come FHD (not IPS) & a 3K IPS panel w/ 99% sRGB
    • Cucked – W500 thru W530 start WXGA/HD & can get up to WUXGA/FHD
  • RAM – Two RAM slots on dualcore based systems, four on quadcores
    • 8GB – Core 2 Duo/Extreme/Quad
    • 32GB max – On Quad i7 machines (if it has four slots)
  • AC Adapters
    • Big Barrel
      • 90W on W500
    • Sloted Big Barrel
      • 135W on W510
      • 170W on W520, W530, some W701
      • 230W on other W701 and all W701ds
    • Rectangle Slim
      • 135W or 170W on W540/1, depending on DC/Q
  • ATI Graphics – W500 machines
  • nVidia 1GB or 2GB – On W700, W701, & W510 through W541 machines
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
P5020EN 20EQ338197254325480
P5120HH 20MM165217283450600
P5220M9147335384500630
P5320QN 20QQ2124305508501050
    • P15, P17 notes
      • Quadcores – P50, P51, P53, P15 G1
        • SixCores – P52, P53, P15 G1 & G2
          • Eight Cores – P53, P15 G1 & G2
      • ULV DualCore (Later quadcore)
        • P50s
    • DDR4 Max – 64GB on P50, P51; 128GB RAM on P52, P53, P15 G1 & G2
      • 3x Drives (2.5″ & 2x NVMe 3×4) – P50 to P52, P53 if T1000 or T2000 GPU
        • 2x NVMe 3×4 – P53 if RTX GPUs & P15 G1
          • 2x NVMe 3×4 + 1x NVMe 4×4 – P15 G2
    • Displays – All IPS FHD or 4K/UHD, or OLED 4K option on P53 thru P15 G2
    • Chargers – 170W Rectangle on All, 230W on beffy P53 thru P15 G2

    IDK what to say about these…. P50 has the OG hinges and not the drop hinges. The keyboard feel on them is fucking amazing too… felt like I was using a T60 but not that nostalgic. Still fucking way better than my T460p and W550s. Oh yeah the frame fucking felt really good on it too.

    ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
    P15 G120ST 20SU6553869011001623
    P15 G220YQ 20YR6068492212001365
    Clone
    T15g G120UR 20US226157409001050
    T15g G220YS 20YT1675095012001550
    T15 based
    P15v G120TQ 20TR20430523650902
    P15v G221A9 21AA265257009001088
    T15p G120TM 20TN12388500750915
    T15p G221A7 21A8154906507501300
    Prices as of December 24th 2023

    Cheaper P15 – T15g is your bet, nVidia RTX instead of Quadro & similar LCD configs
    Powerful T15 – P15v & T15p are in a similar frame but have workstation CPUs.
    P15v has Xeon options, quadro graphics while T15p is iGPU or GeForce

    17″

    17″ 16:10MTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
    W7002758 2752 27532166291
    W700ds2758-MMU MYU
    2752-EPU E7U
    2753-E7U
    0
    W7012500 2541 25422311411
    W701ds2500 2541210001226
    Dec 24th 2023

    17.3″ 16:9MTMSoldLowMidHIghEX+
    P7020ER 20ES36272330557685
    P7120HK 20HL20360414550650
    P7220MB31400500712950
    P7320QR 20QS414516258401460
    Prices as of December 24th 2023 πŸ™‚

    15″ Slim
    P15s, P1, X1 Extreme

    2015MTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
    W550s20E1 20E2
    2E02 2E03
    27118136170240
    2016, 2017
    P50s20FK 20FL48124153217249
    P51s20HB 20JY56135215275350
    P51s Sky14150203230320
    P51s Kaby37130210275350

    2018, 2019 Models

    ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
    P52s20LB135174252400545
    P53s20N6 20N759240307450580
    P1 G120MD 20ME59290350430494
    P1 G220QT 20QU91375450570800
    X1 Extreme20MF 20MG54366470660950
    X1 Extreme G220QV 20QW62370557680800

    Notes about the P1 & X1 Extreme
    Because of their thinness, the cooling fans are smaller and heat sinks too, so cooling performance will be compromised, which is worst on heavy tasks vs the P15. When the 2nd Gen systems dropped, they brought iGPUs into the configs. From what I’ve seen, most sellers say what fucking GPU comes in the machine, because…. idk you get clicks, and it sells a lot higher when you have non-shit graphics. YMMV on these machines, they are similar (X1E, P1 systems), so YOLO.

    ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
    P15s G120T4 20T550362425550650
    P15s G220W6 20W7505006398001000
    P1 G320TH 20TJ515656658051000
    X1E G320TK 20TL485507009301300
    16:10
    P1 G420Y3 20Y472840100013001600
    X1E G420Y5 20Y633812100013001600
    Prices of 12/16/2023 X1E systems and January 2024 P1 units

    14″ Skylake Kaby-Lake HQ

    14″MTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
    T460p20FW 20FX4790150190245
    T470p20J6 20J748150200330400
    Jan third 2024 prices

    14″ Ultrabook 2019 to 2021

    ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
    P43s20RH 20RJ30200242330395
    P14s G1 Intel20S4 20S536275350425525
    P14s G2 Intel20VX 20VY71437550736957
    P14s G1 AMD20Y1 20Y213345390450590
    P14s G2 AMD21A0 21A135408500597750
    1/3/2024
    • dGPU systems
      • P43, P14 G1 Intel, and some P14s G2 Intels
    • iGPU
      • P14 G2 Intel, both AMD P14s G1 or G2

    10″ & 11″ Mini-Laptops & Netbooks

    11″ AMD NetBook / School Laptop – 2010 to 2011

    X SeriesMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
    X100e3508 2876
    3508
    7255065
    Mini 10
    X120e0596 06118536585
    X121e3045 30510
    • Base CPU w/ 1.5/6GHz single core, 1.6GHz dualcore otherwise
    • all have 11.6″ 720p display w/ 200nits & 300:1 contrast ratio
    • 2.5″ 9.5mm SATA II drives, no SATA III πŸ™
    • 65W big barrel charger
    • Max RAM – 4GB DDR on X100/Mini 10, 8GB DDR3 on X120e

    Other than getting a slate tablet w/ keyboard, these are probably the smallest “latest” ThinkPads one could get sub 13″. Oh wait I forgot about the 11e… nvm those are better i think. I do not recommend them, fucking slow as shit, maybe make something with a jukebook with one of these idk. Oh fuck, I forgot about the X1 fold… smallest thinkpad i guess.

    11″ AMD/Intel School NetBook / Chromebook – 2012 to 2014

    BeerPilsnerStoutLagerMeadHefeweizenIPA+
    X130e6254069
    X130e Intel0622 06270
    X130e AMD0622 06276254069
    X131e3368 3367
    3372 3371
    41406075120
    X131e Intel13406575145
    X131e AMD66070
    X140e20BL 20BM133568110140
    X140e AMD20BL133568110140
    Brewed on January sixth
    • HDD/SSD – eMMC on some models
      • X130e – 2.5″ 9.5mm SATA II only
      • X131e – 2.5″ 9.5mm SATA II + mSATA
      • X140e – 2.5″ 9.5mm SATA III + mSATA
    • LCD – 11.6″ HD
      • 200N/300C on X130 & X131e
      • 200N/500C on X140e
    • RAM
      • 16GB DDR3 Max on X130 & X131e
      • 16GB DDR3L Max on X140e
    • 65W Big Barrel charger on all
    • iGPU on all *duh*
      • BUT WAIT, AMD APU GAAAAAAAAMING GRAPHICS OH YEAAHHHAHAHHA
    • Processors….
      • Most of these have meh one-point-whatever DC AMD/Celeron
      • 1.4Ghz i3-2367m on X130e & X131e if you’re lucky
      • FUCKIGN 1.9GHz i3-3227u MONSTER on extra lucky X131e

    In the past, I’ve seen some sellers call these “budget gaming laptops’ because AMD CPU = Gaming.

    Back to these, the creme of the crop is that 1.9GHz i3, an entry level ultrabook CPU, its Ivy bridge vs the Sandy bridge meh tier i3. For sure it is nowhere near an i5-3320m, but its much faster than the quadcore AMD cpu. Shilling aside, these are fucking big (X130, X140) because of that hard case lid and rubber bumper around it. Honestly it’s pretty strange because the 11e has some of a bumper but it isn’t anywhere as big as the 11e.

    Cheap Student Laptop – 2014 to 2020

    ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
    11e G120DA 20D91243607280
    11e 2
    ‘AMD’
    20ED 20EE134072150
    11e 2
    ‘M-5Y10c’
    20E6 20E8169115
    11e 320GB205870165
    11e 420HV10387599
    11e 520LQ 20LR85178100130
    11e CB20DB 20DU25355087
    11e CB320GB 20GF73365
    11e CB420HX 20J0040
    sixnth jan yada yada
    • CPU Gen
      • G1 – Celeron N29xx “Bay Trail”
      • G2 – Intel Core M Broadwell or AMD A4/E2 (2015)
      • G3 – Skylake i3-6xxx, Celeron N31xx or Pentium of that era
      • G4 – Kaby i3-7xxx, or Celeron N34xx
      • G5 – Celeron N41xx or Pentium S N50xx
        • Who fucking cares about cores, forget about it!
    • Memory Things
      • Soldered – 11e G2 Intel, 11e G5, and all Chromebooks here
      • 1 Slot – 11e G1, G2 AMD, G3, G4
        • Max RAM
          • 2/4GB – 11e Chromebook G1 or G3
          • 4GB LPDDR4 – 11e Chromebook G4
          • 4/8GB – 11e G2 intel, 11e G5
          • 8GB DDR3L – 11e G1, G2, G3, G4 (non i3)
          • 8GB DDR4 – 11e G4 i3 version
    • Storage facts rumors – because i cant verify fully via PSREF
      • 16GB eMMC – 11e CB1 & CB3
      • 32GB eMMC – 11e CB4
      • 64/128GB eMMC – 11e G5 (some models)
      • 2.5″ 7mm SATA II – 11e G1
      • 2.5″ 7mm SATA III – 11e G2
      • m.2 SATA III – 11e G3, G4 (m.2 2242 size? idk)
      • m.2 2242 PCIe 3×2 – 11e G5 (some models)
    • Display – 11.6″ HD
      • 200N/400C – 11e G1
      • 200N/500C – 11e G2, & CB1
      • 220N/500C – 11e G3 & CB3
      • 250N/400C – 11e G5
      • 250N/500C – 11e G4, G5, & CB4
      • 250N/800C IPS 45% NTSC – 11e G5
    • Power Adapter
      • Rectangle 45W – 11e G1 thru G5, CB1, CB3
      • USB-C 45W – 11e G5, & CB4
      • Rectangle or USB-C 65W – 11e G5

    This is concise as it can be… in previous TPG iterations, I had literally just mixed all 11e machines together. So I didn’t bother researching the Yoga (tablet) versions or the Chromebook versions. I just simply did Gen and called it a day, or as far as I can remember at 9AM of editing this… not gonna look at the old version right now, thats like fucking seeing your old drawings… even though its been a year between each guide. SO yeah the guide spreadsheet if you wish to look at the link, has specific fucking CPUs these came with. In the later sections of the field. Most of the same gen systems have similar CPUs, but there are some specialties. For the laptops here, you’re gonna basically get an X131e or X140e equivalent screen, Yogas are better. Yeah these do not have a trackpoint. So what. It’s included in the guide anyways, because I like these more than Edge & E Series ThinkPads. πŸ˜€ Get one of these for a burner i guess, but I really recommend getting the Yoga versions instead.

    11e Yoga – 2014 to 2020

    ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
    Yoga 11e CB G320GC 20GE9325057
    Yoga 11e CB G420HW 20HY536130
    Yoga 11e G120DB 20DU +20D9 20DA51425886
    Yoga 11e G220E5 20E755595
    Yoga 11e G320GA376595166
    Yoga 11e G420HU195980
    Yoga 11e G520LM 20LN62244388175
    11e Yoga 6th Gen20SE 20SF34115170220
    Fuckin finally
    • CPU Gen
      • Literally the same like the ones earlier except…
        • Core M, Kaby Lake R – 11e Yoga 6th Gen
    • Memory
      • Yup, just the same like the 11e basic.
      • Yeah I know I could of just copy paste, but then that would be boring
        • 4/8GB LPDDR3 – 11e Yoga G5
    • Storage
      • ….
        • m.2 2242 PCIe 3×2 – 11e Yoga 6th Gen
    • Display
      • IT’S THE SAME 11.6″ DISPLAY, So I’m not gonna…
        • 200N/400C TFT – 11e Yoga G1
        • 200N/500C TFT – 11e Yoga CB3
        • 250N/800C IPS – 11e Yoga G3, G4, G5, 6th Gen, CB4
        • 300N/800C IPS – 11e Yoga G2
    • Power Adapter
      • Rectangle 45W – 11e Yoga G1 thru G5, CB3, CB4
      • USB-C 45W – 11e Yoga G5, 6th Gen
      • 65W Rectangle or USB-C – 11e Yoga 6th Gen

    First off, to shill the ThinkPad Timeline I made, you’ll see what year all the thinkpads are made. Literally all, ok most of them, I may be missing a few… sadly idk how to count them, but there’s 208 models listed with the MTM of 20xx… maybe 100 or so before 2013. Ok i forgot where im going with that originally but the 11e Yoga G5 is still being made today in 2022 and it outlived the 11e Yoga 6th Gen, which was made like 2 years later. Also yeah, I shortened Gen 5 to G5 and etc if you didnt notice, but lenovo calls the G6, 6th Gen… no idea why they changed it out of nowhere, but thats how it is. yes the 11e Yoga G2 has the “best” screen out of them all, with 300 nits brightness and 800 to 1 contrast ratio, idk if the 50 nits really matters, but i guess it did with lenovo so they downgraded them.