Hey, I’m burnt out on this, kek. Dunno when the next update will be, this is kind of old too…
Lets get to business, read the old “how to” shit on V7, page too fucking big now.
Old IBM laptops, portables, ThinkPads, PS/55 “thinkpad” clones will be posted to this link. Systems from 1984 to 2001, basically pre T, R, A, X machines. E series? Fuck em, and make your own guide, L Series should suffice for price comparison. 🙂
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oaD3FJqTWnMLXuyhNXQ9t_LeiQdtunM2t59Sg-cyzN8/edit?usp=sharing
There are three prices for each model in this guide!
Model – Link to eBay, sorted lowest to highest, shipping to USA including Worldwide sellers. Search will have modifiers for certain models to zero in on results. Due to this some machines may be omitted all together. Not sure if there’s a way to get all listings possible int he world.
Low– Great deal if fully working, but mostly these can be fixer uppers (needs more $$ parts). Not recommended for your 1st laptop, unless you’re confident with rebuilidng.
Mid – In about the above middle mark of all sold listings (e.g. #270-300 out of 500 sold units) , my recommended price to newcomers. It can be complete & working, maybe with a warranty. Best for people who want a decent, working laptop.
high – Systems with upgraded RAM, CPU, SSD or LCD. In some cases these are near mint condition. You can def pay much more, as in my spreadsheet I have 4th price… Good for people who want the best out of their laptop, & have certain spec requirements.
EX+ – Usually New, refurbished or excellent refurbished laptops. Sometimes high end CPU/GPU/RAM/SSD/LCD configurations, but not always if it’s a NIB older model. Ideal for people who want no fussing with parts, possibly come with Lenovo warranties, or seller guarantees.
#Sold – How many laptops sold within the past 3 months at the time of research. The higher the better, as it means plenty of machines & likely chance of a seller having a BIN undercut or generally good as is auctions. However the older the laptop is, the lower the number usually gets, & in some cases, are sought after & sell for higher, due to eBay alerts for buyers.
MTM – Machine Type Model
Some ThinkPads are just others with different model names on the bezel. Additionally if you’re looking for parts harvesting, you can have a chance with some parts when doing this. Also some sellers will put this down as the ThinkPad model name, so it’s necessary when TP hunting, especially the 90’s ones.
14″ Machines
T Series Standard
R, L Series Economy
The OG Classic!
13.3″ & 14.1″ 4:3
2000 – 2003
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
2647 / T2x All | 36 | 40 | 90 | 175 | 300 | |
T20 | 2647 | 13 | 50 | 80 | 155 | 205 |
T21 | 2647 | 4 | 53 | – | 131 | 300 |
T22 | 2647 | 5 | 54 | 65 | 176 | 240 |
T23 | 2647 | 15 | 86 | 165 | 194 | 324 |
T30 | 2366 | 18 | 65 | 135 | 165 | 214 |
TP Forums T20 Max CPU
T30 CPU info
Blink of death
T30 RAM problem
Loose inductor T23
R30 = T21
R31 = T22
R32 = Chassis name for the Third Generation Nissan Skyline. The GT-R spec infamously known as “Godzilla” in circuit & road racing due to its dominance. The lovely RB26DETT straight six engine and four wheel drive… But in this case, we refer the R32 ThinkPad, so it’s equal to the T23 in a way.
R40 = T30 or T40…
14.1″ | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | HIgh | EX+ |
R40e | 2684 | 1 | – | 69 | – | – |
13.3″, 14.1″, & 15″ | ||||||
R40 All | 8 | 53 | 70 | 115 | 143 | |
R40 P4-M | 2681 2682 2896 | 4 | 30 | 62 | 100 | 115 |
R40 P-M | 2897 2723 | 2 | 54 | – | – | – |
2003 – 2006 | 14.1″ & 15″
Pentium M
Classic IBM Thinkpad
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T40 | 2373 2378 2379 | 14 | 70 | 125 | 180 | 240 |
T41 | 2373 2379 | 18 | 62 | 108 | 140 | 242 |
T42 | 2373 2374 2378 2379 | 39 | 64 | 104 | 195 | 240 |
T43 All | 1871 1872 1875 1876 2686 2687 2668 2669 | 40 | 45 | 75 | 130 | 250 |
14.1″ & 15″ | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
R50 | 1834 1830 1829 1836 | 1 | – | 55 | – | – |
R50e | 1834 1842 | 6 | 36 | 59 | 84 | 153 |
R51 | Too many | 15 | 42 | 66 | 100 | 165 |
R51e | 1843 1844 | 1 | 41 | – | – | – |
R52 | Too many | 5 | 49 | 86 | 113 | 120 |
Z Series | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
Z60t | 2511 2512 2513 2514 | 0 | – | – | – | – |
Z61t | 9440 9441 9442 9443 | 3 | 8 | 35 | 46 | – |
- Hardware issues
- Graphics…
- GPU issues can be a problem of this era, but if they turn on and go to bios, you should be OK
- Reflowing the graphics card is quick fix for bad GPUs, but not a solution
- Southbridge chip Flex
- Picking up the laptop with one hand can bend the chassis & poof southbridge disconnected
- Pick it up with two hands to be safe, supposedly T43 fixed this problem
- R Series don’t have this problem due to a thicker plastic base that doesn’t flex. Its not as sexy as the T Series tho.
- Graphics…
T4x SSD info
T43 SATA mod
GPU reflow
2006 – 2010 | 14″ mostly, some 15″ & 15.4″
Core (2) Duo, 3-ish generations
Classic Lenovo ThinkPads, Last of the Old Guard
Model | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T60 All | 74 | 55 | 100 | 148 | 213 |
T61 | 52 | 54 | 85 | 132 | 178 |
T61u | 0 | – | – | – | – |
T400 | 61 | 55 | 90 | 170 | 240 |
T400 Libre | 7 | 140 | 180 | 220 | 250 |
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
R60 | A lot | 8 | 55 | 83 | 118 | 140 |
R60e | 0657 0658 0659 | 5 | 56 | 87 | 102 | 150 |
R61 | A Fuckton | 25 | 59 | 97 | 130 | 160 |
R61e | 7650 7649-22U | 1 | 42 | – | – | – |
R61i | 7732 7650 8932 | 14 | 42 | 65 | 99 | 130 |
R400 | 7438 7439 7440 7443 | 7 | 45 | – | 135 | 170 |
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
SL400 | 2743 | 1 | – | – | – | 90 |
SL400c | 4413 | 0 | – | – | – | – |
SL410 | 2842 2874 | 3 | 33 | – | 84 | – |
More graphic problems… T60 have ATI graphics and some people complain about overheating issues, T61 have the infamous nVidia BGA solder failures. But you may get one that was fixed by IBM engineers, or just replaced by another faulty mobo thanks to Lenovo bean counters.
A popular cooling upgrade is using a W500 heatsink & fan, as it’ll fit most systems except the 14″ widescreen i think. L Series have DDR2 RAM I think and build wise are way different than R Series. E Series comes around this ISN”T an E Series friendly website.
2010 – 2015
Core i3, i5, i7 – 1st gen to 4th
Last of the Socketed CPU Machines
Non-“s” T Series….
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T410 | 2516 2518 2519 2522 2537 | 95 | 55 | 70 | 90 | 160 |
T410i | 2516 2518 | 5 | 22 | 55 | 60 | |
T420 | 4177 4178 4179 4180 4236 | 224 | 63 | 82 | 155 | 230 |
T420i | 4178 | 9 | 45 | 63 | 124 | 170 |
T420 coreboot | 5 | 130 | 200 | 248 | 415 | |
T430 | 2344 2347 2349 | 390 | 65 | 90 | 150 | 270 |
T430 coreboot | new to TPG | 5 | 175 | 253 | 300 | 444 |
T430i | 2344 | 2 | – | 86 | – | |
T440p | 20AN 20AW | 315 | 63 | 85 | 155 | 265 |
T440/p libre/core | new to TPG | 5 | 120 | 225 | 266 | 400 |
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
L412 | 4403 4404 0530 0553 0585 | 22 | 65 | 84 | 104 | – |
L420 | 7854 7827 7829 | 14 | 47 | 87 | 125 | – |
L430 | 2468 2465 2466 | 21 | 60 | 85 | 120 | – |
L440 | 20AS 20AT | 72 | 60 | 89 | 130 | 200 |
- DDR3 – T410 thru T430
- DDR3L – T440p
- 16:9 – T420 thru T440p (IPS on the T440p as an toption, $$ mod required for T420, T430)
T Series “NuPad” Redesign
“ThinkPads Suck Now”, Macbook Shill era
2013 – 2020
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T440 | 20B6 20B7 | 160 | 66 | 90 | 125 | 200 |
T450 | 20BU 20BV | 371 | 63 | 93 | 130 | 230 |
T460 | 20FM 20FN | 544 | 70 | 104 | 144 | 260 |
T470 All | 998 | 84 | 115 | 157 | 275 | |
T470 Sky | 20JM 20JN | 398 | 77 | 105 | 150 | 250 |
T470 Kaby | 20HD 20HE | 452 | 85 | 120 | 170 | 300 |
T25 | 20K7? | 3 | 780 | 1050 | 1250 | 1700 |
T480 All | 20L5 20L6 | 745 | 140 | 200 | 290 | 375 |
T480 Kaby | 20L5 20L6 | 23 | 144 | 180 | 210 | 260 |
T480 Kaby R | 20L5 20L6 | 650 | 140 | 195 | 285 | 315 |
L450 | 20DS 20DT | 36 | 75 | 101 | 150 | 187 |
L460 | 20FU 20FV | 127 | 74 | 93 | 130 | 190 |
L470 All | 129 | 75 | 100 | 148 | 185 | |
L470 ‘Sky’ | 20J4 10J5 | 45 | 70 | 89 | 152 | 185 |
L470 ‘Kaby’ | 20JU 20JV | 64 | 75 | 95 | 130 | 198 |
L480 | 20LS 20LT | 89 | 100 | 122 | 185 | 250 |
L480 Kaby | – | 6 | 105 | 120 | 135 | – |
L480 Kaby R | – | 88 | 100 | 120 | 185 | 250 |
Yeah, lenovo offered the previous generation CPU on some systems. I couldn’t just fucking do one search, I had to do two, becuase last thing I want is to fuck u over due to lazyness.. I rather do it via ignorance, which was done b4 i found out they had two dif cpus lol
T480 had a USB-C firmware issue where it wont charge, or only slow charge. Or maybe its the T480s, thats all I know that is bad about these but really don’t dwelve deeper than that. Some chud says T440 is better than the T450 because it doesn’t have a LCD whitelist crap, but who cares if you got the IPS display.
A Series was essentially a T or X Series machine, but with AMD CPUs. Lenovo eventually just names the “A495” as the T495. I think the E Series had AMD variants that ended w/ 5, while standard Intel machines ended with 0.
2019 to Nao T Series
Now with “Healing BIOS”
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T490 All | 20N2 20N3 20RX 20RY | 678 | 170 | 213 | 270 | 400 |
T490 Whiskey | 20N2 20N3 | 545 | 171 | 236 | 280 | 350 |
T490 Comet | 20RX 20RY | 20 | 225 | 270 | 330 | 468 |
T495 | 20NJ 20NK | 125 | 230 | 240 | 262 | 310 |
T14 G1 Intel | 20S0 20S1 | 232 | 254 | 300 | 390 | 550 |
T14 G1 Ryzen | 20UD 20UE | 62 | 350 | 410 | 475 | 511 |
T14 G2 Intel | 20W0 20W1 | 202 | 405 | 490 | 642 | 800 |
T14 G2 Ryzen | 20XK 20XL | 61 | 420 | 549 | 684 | 800 |
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
L490 | 20Q5 20Q6 | 29 | 128 | 160 | 210 | 340 |
L14 G1 Intel | 20U1 20U2 | 57 | 185 | 233 | 300 | 400 |
L14 G1 Ryzen | 20U5 20U6 | 46 | 160 | 225 | 355 | 480 |
L14 G2 Intel | 20X1 20X2 | 56 | 302 | 400 | 550 | 620 |
L14 G2 Ryzen | 20X4 20X6 | 26 | 202 | 324 | 402 | 539 |
- Currently, Healing Bios will thwart all BIOS locks using a CH14a programmer from flashing the rom. Check the badcaps forum for updates.
T Series Modern
2022 to Current
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T14 G3 Intel | 21AH 21AJ | 76 | 543 | 680 | 860 | 950 |
T14 G3 AMD | 21CF 21CG | 30 | 520 | 631 | 784 | 882 |
T14 G4 Intel | 21HD 21HE | 7 | 550 | 850 | 1058 | 1300 |
T14 G4 AMD | 21K3 21K4 | 0 | – | – | – | 1280 |
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
L14 G3 Intel | 21C1 21C2 | 9 | 230 | 410 | 575 | 660 |
L14 G3 AMD | 21C5 21C6 | 17 | 320 | 385 | 480 | 630 |
L14 G4 Intel | 21H1 21H2 | 1 | 500 | – | – | 1030 |
L14 G4 AMD | 21H5 21H6 | 0 | 330 | – | – | 808 |
T Series Slim
These have a different build than the standard T Series, they are slimmer and are a slight upgrade in some respects. Some come standard with a higher res screen, better battery life, and higher CPU or RAM as standard. In addition to them being slim, there are some that do not have removable ram slots, or even any at all (I think). Additionally, they have different frames and shapes, so most Lenovo specific parts can’t be swapped.
2009 – 2014
“Classic” to Graphite Black
16:10 | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T400s | 2808 2815 2823 | 4 | 65 | 70 | 100 | 155 |
T410s | 2901 2904 2912 2924 | 16 | 38 | 55 | 80 | 142 |
T410si | 2904 -CUU -CVU -CWU, 2901 -AKU | 0 | – | – | – | – |
16:9 | ||||||
T420s | 4170 4171 4173 4174 | 77 | 54 | 80 | 111 | 153 |
T420si | ???? | 0 | – | – | – | – |
T430s | 2352 2353 2355 2356 8614 | 142 | 45 | 78 | 140 | 180 |
T430si | ???? | 0 | – | – | – | – |
T430u | 8614 3351 3353 3352 6273 | 7 | 40 | 64 | 77 | 143 |
T431s | 20AA 20AC | 15 | 55 | 73 | 102 | 129 |
- Classic Charger – T400s, T410s, T420s, T430s, T430u
- Rectangle Slim – T431s, T440s, T450s
- 1.8″ uSATA – T400s, T410s
- 2.5″ 7mm SATA – T420s, T430s, T431s, T430u
- 2nd Drive
- mSATA – T420s, T430s, T430u
- m.2 mSATA (B+M key crap) – T431s, T440s, T450s
- DVD swapped for HDD caddy
- T400s, T410s, T420s, T430s
- 2nd Drive
- iGPU only – T431s
- Screens
- 16:10 TN – WXGA or WXGA+
- T400s, T410s
- 16:9
- TN 768p
- T420s, T430s, T430u
- TN 900p
- T420s, T430s, T431s
- 1080p IPS mod chip & cable upgrade
- T420s, T430s
- 1080p IPS upgradable
- T431s
- TN 768p
- 16:10 TN – WXGA or WXGA+
- IPS Screens – Are mostly 250 or 300 Nits luminance & 700:1 Contrast ratio til T490s
- Dual Batteries – T400s, T410s, T420s, T430s, (DVD), T440s, T450s, (internal)
- Two RAM slots – T400s, T410s, T420s, T430s, T430u
- Soldered RAM + 1 Slot – T431s, T440s, T450s; 20/24GB Max
From Version 6 – T400s is the bargain LibreBoot ThinkPad, cheaper than T400, X61, or X200. I’m assuming not many T400s were produced & the other machines seem to have article, guide & video about them, so they became the ones that were demanded. If you’re really wanting to get something this old… T410s used to be one of the last 16:10 ThinkPads, so if you wanted a T Series, that be it, but given now there’s new 16:10 ThinkPads in 2021, and assuming more, this aint shit now.
First off, these are not “REAL CLASSIC IBM” however the T420s, & if you mod it, T430s are the last here to have the 7 Row keyboard layout. The typing feel is a bit better, but it’s not something I’d recommend for college if you’re wanting it to last 4 years & expect it to stay on & standby for 4 classes… you’d probably need an extra battery or two. If you want something in your in your dorm, use it for writing, watching streams & have great durability, nab either of these machines. If you want 8 hours of batter life, The FHD mod kit is not available for these machines, but it is for the normal T420 or T430, cost ya $50 from ThinkPan. If you want to, the T431s can get an FHD IPS panel as an upgrade without any fuss. Remember the T440s has the infamous clickpad, so you can swap it with a T450s.
2013 – 2020
ClickPads, “Nu”-Pads
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T440s | 20AQ 20AR | 268 | 60 | 85 | 137 | 190 |
T450s | 20BW 20BX | 358 | 60 | 87 | 130 | 190 |
TouchPad | 16 | 23 | ||||
T460s | 20F9 20FA | 686 | 86 | 121 | 180 | 269 |
T470s All | 20HF 20HG 20JS 20JT | 565 | 100 | 139 | 216 | 330 |
T470s Skylake | 20JS 20JT | 229 | 94 | 120 | 175 | 224 |
T470s ‘Kaby’ | 20HF 20HG | 203 | 110 | 138 | 184 | 249 |
T480s | 20L7 20L8 | 909 | 152 | 210 | 293 | 410 |
T480s Kaby | 20L7 20L8 | 0 | – | 170 | – | – |
T480s K-R | 20L7 20L8 | 784 | 150 | 195 | 280 | 360 |
- Chargers
- Rectangle Slim – T460s only; some T470s
- USB-C – T480s only, some T470s
- IPS Display
- T440 it wasn’t offered but maybe be able to be upgraded??
- T450, T440s, T450s it was an option
- FHD IPS is Standard from T460s
- optional is FHD Touch, or WQHD,
- FHD Privacy opt on T480s.
- 3 IPS options total on all machines.
- Dual Batteries – On T460s, T470s; only internal battery from T480s on out.
- QuadCore CPUs – On some T480s machines (8th gen Kaby Lake R) & later, everything before is dualcore
- dGPU –
- On T460s & most T480s, except EMEA machines.
- T470s is iGPU only
- Memory
- Soldered RAM + 1 slot – T440s, T450s, T460s, T470s, T480s; 20/24GB Max
Pick these ‘s’ models over the standard T Series as they have NVMe 3×4 speeds, as the others have only 3×2 (until the T490) & you’ll need an adapter for them, as they have 2.5″ SATA III bays. T480s is cursed for its USB-C charging port, I think all 8th Gen CPU thinkpads have a fauty power delivery, as there’s reports for other machines having an issue too. Yes there’s a firmware update, however… consider that you may get an eWaste T480s that is being sold for parts due to that being broken. Do I know for a fact buying it, & updating firmware will fix it or not? No. I don’t want to spread FUD, but I also don’t want to advise buying these without knowing 100% its fixable & not an issue. If you’re looking for dedicated graphics, T460s, T480s are ones to get, but honestly a P slim maybe better.
2019 to Current
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T490s | 20NX 20NY | 227 | 159 | 184 | 210 | 235 |
T495s | 20QJ 20QK | 36 | 210 | 290 | 339 | 390 |
T14s Intel G1 | 20T0 20T1 | 135 | 275 | 335 | 425 | 567 |
T14s AMD G1 | 20UH 20UJ | 30 | 224 | 319 | 400 | 483 |
T14s G2 Intel | 20WM 20WN | 121 | 380 | 450 | 579 | 739 |
T14s G2 Ryzen | 20XF 20XG | 25 | 425 | 520 | 586 | 760 |
T14s Intel G3 | 21BR 21BS | 50 | 550 | 700 | 850 | 1086 |
T14s AMD G3 | 21CQ 21CR | 22 | 600 | 700 | 821 | 990 |
T14s Intel G4 | 21F6 21F7 | 10 | 650 | 900 | 1194 | 1585 |
T14s AMD G4 | 21F8 21F9 | 0 | 830 | – | – | 1240 |
- T490s, T495s and T14s Gen 1 and 2 use the same motherboard as their X390, X13 counterparts.
- Processor crap
- Quadcore Only – T490s, T495s, T14s G2 Intel….
- Sixcore options – T14s Intel G1, T14s G2 AMD
- Sixcore by Default – T14s G1 AMD, Fuck yeah
- Eightcore bragging rights – select T14s AMD Gen 1 & Gen 2.
- iGPU – On all machines
- NVMe 3×4 – On all machines… except T14s Gen 2 Intel/AMD are 4×4 supposedly
- IPS Displays – 5x Options on all Intel machines, 4x options on AMD (5x on G2). Mix of privacy guard, blue light filter, low power & Adobe HDR mixups, too much to go thru. See the flowchart or the specific X1/T14s spreadsheet 🙂
- UHD IPS – Available as an option on T14s Intel G1 & G2, and G2 AMD
- USB-C Chargers – On all models, 45W or 65W
- Only Internal Batteries – On all models, 6 Cell 57Whr Li-Polymer for just about all of them. Unsure if they all share the same part number or similar fitment.
Actually idk if i got this info correct when I wrote this, because I am conflating normal T Series with T-S specs. I think this or the “Normal” T Series has X Series parts. Whatever.
2000 – 2002
A Series – 12″, 14.1″ & 15″
Small Business, Economy & Multimedia
A20m – searching under all categories. shipping is expensive, all units boot, low has no drive, others do
A21e – eastcoast is fair at what they got… although it comes with a 12″ screen lol, I do want it because of that
A21m – haftu on the refurb game… overpriced IMO, i think they are scouraging for units too. but if u get tired of looking for this laptop (or other vintage ThinkPad, they sell a bit) *eyes burn& they use comic sans in the description. my eyes are bleeding, also their white bottom and cardboard backdrop makes it hard to see if there’s any imperfections. especially the sides, as the lightsource is directly above and not in front, so it casts a shadow on the edges…. I just looked at avail units, i got raged that a machine “turns on without a dark screen” but the motherfucker doesn’t SHOW IT FUCKING TURNING ON. new seller that “always leaves positive feedback” but doesn’t… have any feedback given. lmafo
A22e – similar prices to A21e if it happens
A22m – high price is the only sold unit, with 2 bids via Croatia! low price is actuhally an available unit that boots!
Finally I have added the A Series… One of my favorite ThinkPads series! Although the ones I came across don’t have that tight feelin the T2x has, they are the next best thing. These machines were catered to multimedia and small business, and the e variant was a cheaper model to get. Then the R Series came along and was a cheaper machine I believe. All units use the same bottom chassis, the 12″ just has a big ass bezel around the screen, and the 15″ had a modified keyboard bezel & palm rest to accommodate the bigger 15″ screen.
A Series Info (copied from T Series)
- m = Multimedia – 770 Series successor
- e = Economy – 300 Series successor
- LCD – 12.1″ SVGA, 14.1″ XGA & 15.0″ XGA screens (all TFT)
- A20 thru A22m
- 15.0″ SXGA+
- A22m
- certain mobos accept the LCD upgrade & need the cable to go along with it I think…
- A20 thru A22m
- Max RAM / CPU
- 512MB DDR & 1GHz PIII
- All A2x
- 512MB DDR & 1GHz PIII
- Drives – 9.25mm PATA drives
- Samsung HM160HC recommended via TP forums
- IDE to mSATA converters
- IDE to CF Card (i think u need certain types of ones tho)
- Hardware issues
- Blink of Death?
- Motherboard doesn’t recognize both ram slots
- something about the solder joint getting loose, may need mobo replacement
- Three drives
- Floppy
- HDD
- Blank / CD-ROM / DVD-ROM / HDD Caddy
- 380, 390 & iSeries also have 3 drives too
15″ ThinkPads
A & G Series
T, L, and R Big
IBM Classic Desktop Replacement: 14.1″ & 15″
2001 – 2004 | A Series
12.1″, 14.1″, & 15″ | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
A20m | 2628 | 5 | 35 | 78 | 104 | 220 |
A21m | 2628 | 11 | 70 | 101 | 140 | 290 |
A21e | 2628 2655 | 1 | 35 | 53 | – | – |
A22m | 2628 | 1 | 67 | – | – | – |
A22e | 2655 | 1 | – | – | 71 | – |
iSeries 1800 | 0 | – | – | – | – | |
14.1″, & 15″ | ||||||
A30 | 2652 | 2 | – | – | 230 | 308 |
A31 | 2653 | 9 | 70 | 171 | 222 | 319 |
DYEL? | ||||||
G40 | 2384 2388 | 5 | 50 | 70 | – | 165 |
G41 | 2881 2882 2886 | 2 | – | 76 | 117 | – |
G50 | ???? | 0 | – | – | – | – |
Quick Info
- CPUs
- Pentium III Tualatin
- A30
- Mobile Pentium 4-M Low Powered “Northwood”
- A31
- Mobiel Pentium 4 “Northwood”
- G40
- G41
- Core Duo
- G50
- Pentium III Tualatin
- Graphics
- ATI dGPUs
- A30
- A31
- Intel Integrated Graphics (shitty)
- G40
- G41 (if it has a floppy drive)
- G50
- nVidia dGPU card (removable)
- G41 (fan holes on left side of laptop)
- ATI dGPUs
- Screen Options
- 14.1″ XGA
-
- A30
- A31
- G40
- G41
- 15.0″ XGA or SXGA+
- All
- 15.0″ SXGA+ IPS
- A30
- A31
- Drives
- 2.5″ 9.5mm PATA
- A30
- A31
- G40
- G41
- 2.5″ 9.5mm SATA
- G50
- DUAL FUCKING ULTRABAYS
- A30
- A31
- NOT SO EASY ULTRABAY REMOVAL?!
- G40
- G50
- G41
- 2.5″ 9.5mm PATA
- Hardware Issues
- Graphics Problems
- A30
- A31
- Some add a copper shim connecting the GPU to the CPU heat sink
- Graphics Problems
A31P MASTER FUCKING THINKPAD. I fucking love my A31p! oh fuck we aren’t at this section yet… fuck. Try to get an IPS A3x system if you can… Some say the G series has a desktop CPU, and I think I fell for it too/ But honestly I’m not sure if it does… I think the confusion is that these fucking CPUs take a lot of power, and some desktops had them for a CPU. What I dislike most about the G Series is that it doesn’t have a docking port, and its actual fucking ports are limited thanks to that… And, for being the most massive fucking laptop (i think a 770 is thicker), it doesn’t have a crazy as fuck videocard… And on the G41, if it did come with the nVidia FX Go5200 (with either 64MB or 128MB), you couldn’t upgrade it… Plus the Dell Precision M60 was a better machine with that card. Oh and if you wanted max Pentium 4 performance… the Compaq nx9600 was probably your best bet. Yeah we are kinda going to workstation terrirory, but still, IBM and even Lenovo never really offered a heavy hitter GPU laptop, even when MXM cards were available, only until the P50 or P70 did they offer something.
4:3 “IBM Classic” 2003 – 2007
IPS? | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T42 15″ | ??? | 6 | 59 | 85 | 90 | 177 |
T43 15″ | ??? | 8 | 59 | 108 | 212 | 410 |
T60 15″ | ??? | 8 | 45 | 67 | 146 | 200 |
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
Z60m | 2529 2530 2531 2532 | 0 | – | – | – | – |
Z61m | 9450 9451 9452 9453 | 1 | – | – | 87 | – |
Z61e | 0672 0673 | 0 | 23 | 51 | – | – |
- Display
- 15″
- XGA or SXGA+ IPS
- T42
- T43
- T60
- R60?
- UXGA
- T60
- UXGA
- XGA or SXGA+ IPS
- 15.4″
- WXGA
- T61
- T500
- WSXGA+
- T60
- T61
- T500
- WUXGA
- T61
- T500
- WUXGA
- WSXGA+
- 15″
Widescreen 16:10, to 16.6″
2007 to 2010 – Core (2) Duo – Merom / Penryn
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T61 15.4″ | A lot | 7 | 55 | 130 | 175 | 285 |
T500 | A lot | 31 | 65 | 100 | 150 | 220 |
T500 libre | 1 | – | – | 150 | – |
15.4″ wide | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
R61u | 7733 7743 | 0 | – | – | – | – |
R500 | 2714 2716 2717 2718 | 7 | 60 | 107 | 129 | 176 |
SL500 – kek these can have nVidia graphics while the T400 & T500 had ATI
15.6″ & 15.5″ 3K
2010 to 2015 – i5, i7
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T510 | 4313 4314 4349 4384 | 55 | 49 | 92 | 130 | 201 |
T520 | 4239 4240 4241 4242 4243 | 94 | 60 | 96 | 155 | 239 |
T520i | 4239 | 2 | 55 | – | 169 | – |
T530 | 2392 2394 2429 | 154 | 70 | 94 | 160 | 276 |
T530i | 2359 | 0 | – | – | – | – |
T540p | 20BE 20BF | 252 | 68 | 93 | 150 | 270 |
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
L512 | 4444 4447 2597 2598 2550 | 5 | 46 | 76 | 142 | 193 |
L520 | 7859 5016 5017 | 9 | 57 | 80 | 94 | 135 |
L530 | 2481 2485 2478 2479 | 10 | 44 | 80 | 102 | 138 |
L540 | 20AV 20AU | 22 | 68 | 140 | 166 | 226 |
- Display
- HD, HD+ and FHD TFTs
- All units
- FHD IPS
- Some T540p
- FHD IPS
- All units
- 15.5″ 3K
- T540p (up to T560 I believe)
- HD, HD+ and FHD TFTs
- mSATA
- T510 thru T530
- m.2 SATA (B+M Key bs)
- T540p
- CLICK FUCKING PAD
- T540p
- Can get Coreboot I think?
A few Coreboot T520 machines are starting to pop up. Yeah the damn clickpad on the T540p might affect the prices vs the T530. If you want to go big, a W Series is the way to go, but honestly I like the Elitebook 85xx more.
2015 to 2020
Soldered Processors
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T550 | 20CJ 20CK | 55 | 76 | 110 | 180 | 250 |
Yoga 15 | 20DQ | 7 | 55 | 100 | 165 | – |
T560 | 20FH 20FJ | 210 | 88 | 120 | 159 | 250 |
T570 all | 20H9 20HA 20JW 20JX | 246 | 100 | 129 | 200 | 269 |
T570 Sky | 20JW 20JX | 129 | 90 | 106 | 160 | 225 |
T570 Kaby | 20H9 20HA | 96 | 125 | 144 | 200 | 271 |
T580 Kaby | 20LA 20L9 | 6 | 105 | 150 | – | – |
T580 Kaby R | 20LA 20L9 | 306 | 156 | 205 | 270 | 335 |
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
L560 | 20F1 20F2 | 29 | 81 | 115 | 155 | 194 |
L570 All | 20J8 20J9 20JQ 20JR | 50 | 104 | 135 | 204 | – |
L570 ‘Sky’ | 20JQ 20RJ | 15 | 81 | 120 | 150 | 274 |
L570 Kaby | 20J8 20J9 | 31 | 95 | 129 | 152 | 288 |
L580 | 20LW 20LX | 36 | 139 | 175 | 205 | 227 |
- m.2 SATA
- T550
- NVMe 3.0 x2 via SATAe Caddy
- T560
- T570
- T580
- UHD IPS option
- T560 and beyond
2019 to 2023 – Modern Hellscape
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T590 | 20N4 20N5 | 156 | 190 | 260 | 332 | 430 |
T15 G1 | 20S6 20S7 | 100 | 270 | 382 | 461 | 610 |
T15 G2 | 20W4 20W5 | 73 | 407 | 550 | 624 | 940 |
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
L590 | 20Q7 20Q8 | 31 | 148 | 195 | 256 | 500 |
L15 Intel | 20U3 20U4 | 39 | 220 | 265 | 330 | 450 |
L15 AMD | 20U7 20U8 | 11 | 205 | 259 | 300 | 520 |
L15 G2 Intel | 20X3 20X4 | 36 | 271 | 406 | 520 | 640 |
L15 G2 AMD | 20X7 20X8 | 19 | 330 | 400 | 600 | 679 |
2022 – Current
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
L15 G3 Intel | 21C3 21C4 | 21 | 422 | 500 | 639 | 746 |
L15 G3 AMD | 21C7 21C8 | 13 | 375 | 507 | 650 | 1125 |
L15 G4 Intel | 21H3 21H4 | 0 | – | – | – | 1400 |
L15 G4 AMD | 21H7 21H8 | 0 | 730 | – | – | 1270 |
16″ Mainstream
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T16 G1 Intel | 21BV 21BW | 71 | 600 | 782 | 1049 | 1150 |
T16 G1 AMD | 21CH 21CJ | 25 | 600 | 740 | 800 | 900 |
T16 G2 Intel | 21HH 21HJ | 16 | 933 | 1163 | 1301 | 1550 |
T16 G2 AMD | 21K7 21K8 | 1 | 825 | 1000 | 1224 | – |
Yeah they are 16″ now, and I think 16:10?
SubNotebook, Ultrabook & Flagship
Must be X Series
Mixing 12″ X Series with S30, most tablet variations, X1 Carbon, X13 & L13 machines.
The X Series was just about equal to the T Series since it’s iteration. Like the old IBM era, it is a true successor to the 500 Series with a bit of 200 mixed in. But for a moment, there was a machine that took the spotlight away from the 500, and it was a great seller; the 701C. The 701C was an ultraportable but it had a fullsize keyboard thanks to the Butterfly mechanism that gave a fuck unlike the shit Apple made. For anniversary editions, there are quite a bit of them in the smaller category. Technically the 700 was a small laptop in comparison to other notebooks, and such the X Series holds the flame. S30/S31 was the 10th anniversary of the ThinkPad, but they did make one with the X30 as well. Next was the ThinkPad Reserve Edition, which was a special version of the X61s with a leather bound case. When Apple unveiled the MacBook Air, Lenovo countered with their own take on an UltraSlim ThinkPad, the X300. It got slimmer and became the X1, and then got slightly bigger and became the X1 Carbon. After a few years, the X1 became it’s own sub-brand to the ThinkPad, being the premier, ultrathin & flagship version of other ThinkPads. I can fucking talk all day about the X Series ThinkPads… they really are something special, unless you really require absolute performance, then maybe not so.
Classic IBM X
Some links fuck up now, so they don’t open a new window…
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
X20 | – | 2 | 55 | – | 115 | – |
X21 | – | 2 | 52 | – | – | – |
S30 | 2639 | 3 | 120 | 140 | 258 | 360 |
X22 | – | 0 | – | – | – | – |
S31 | 2639 | 0 | – | – | – | – |
TransNote | 2675 | ~4 | 91 | 370 | 770 | 940 |
X23 | – | 1 | – | – | 110 | – |
X24 | – | – | – | – | – | – |
- Display
- SVGA (800 x 600)
- X20
- X21
- XGA
- All systems here
- SVGA (800 x 600)
I do not know much about these machines. No blink of death. Nothing to brag about is that these have a dGPU, because iGPUs weren’t really a thing at this time. X2x Ultrabase can have both a floppy and a CD drive at the same time, IBM quickly changed this “problem” on the X30 revision. TransNote is here because… its basically an X20 with a touchscreen, pen thing. I want that failure so bad. S30 and S31 are RARE as fuck, recently purchased a unit from a collector & thats the high price… it could be higher than that kek. I forget what they were asking on the other units they were selling.
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | mid | high | EX+ |
X30 | – | 2 | – | – | 123 | 850 |
X31 | 2672 2884 | 5 | 59 | 80 | 153 | 306 |
X40 | 2371 2372 2382 2386 | 9 | 50 | 64 | 79 | 109 |
X41 | 2525 2527 2528 | 6 | 40 | 75 | 110 | – |
X32 | 2672 2884 2885 | 0 | – | – | – | – |
I love the fact that the X40’s performance thanks to the SULV Pentium M and 1.8″ drives sucked so much that IBM had to bring back the machine it replaced. They brought the X32 alongside the X41, yeah! Also Intel Extreme graphics were crap… I know this first hand because I’ve used a G40 and G41 w/ nVidia… it’s a load of differences. At least with the X31 the CPU didn’t need to bother with graphics, that’s where the ATI graphics chip helped out, AND the X32 didn’t even get an upgraded GPU… good times!
Lenovo X Series
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
X60 | 1706 1708 1709 | 4 | 50 | 87 | 129 | 190 |
X60 Libre | – | 3 | 87 | 150 | – | 285 |
X60s | 1702 1704 1705 | 3 | 48 | 65 | 85 | – |
X60s Libre | – | 0 | – | – | – | – |
X61 | 7673 7674 7675 | 30 | 60 | 80 | 111 | 154 |
X61s | 7669 7666 7667 | 8 | 43 | 70 | 83 | 260 |
Reserve | – | 0 | — | – | – | – |
X62 51nb | – | 0 | – | – | – | – |
Tablet | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
X41t | 1866 1867 1869 | 5 | 50 | 92 | 108 | 180 |
X60T | 6363 6364 6366 | 1 | – | – | – | 178 |
X61t | 7762 7763 7767 | 3 | – | 50 | 103 | – |
- Display
- XGA
- All systems here
- SXGA+
- X60t
- X61t (bubbly LCD problem)
- XGA
- Vaporware
- ThinkPad Reserve Edition
- ULV cpus
- X40
- X41
- X60s
- X61s
- ThinkPad Reserve Edition
- Normal CPUs
- X32
- X60
- X61
Lenovo pressed on with having a ULV CPU machine with the X60s, and the “full powered” CPU on the X60. From there it would have the successors, X61s and X61. But then it wanted to make special anniversary edition for ThinkPads, the Reserve Edition. NOW, it is just a X61s with a leather cased assembly, but at the time it was only catered to a select few clientele and it came with an even faster repair program, with it’s own telephone line, a big deal at the time.
16:10 ThinkPad X
X300 Executive UltraSlim
X200 UltraPortable
12″ | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
X200 | 7454 7455 7458 7459 | 23 | 80 | 120 | 170 | 325 |
X200 Libre | – | 10 | 102 | 250 | 280 | 341 |
X200s | 7465 7466 7469 7470 | 6 | 60 | 96 | 137 | 202 |
X201 | 3249 3626 2680 | 43 | 69 | 99 | 123 | 167 |
X201s | 5143 5497 | 0 | – | – | – | 191 |
X210 51nb | – | 0 | – | – | – | – |
X2100 10th Gen | 1 | 1800 | – | – | – |
Tablet | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
X200t | 7448 7449 7450 7453 | 9 | 85 | 115 | 148 | 210 |
X201t | 2985 3093 3113 | 24 | 70 | 110 | 160 | 224 |
X220t | 4294 4296 4298 4299 | 42 | 82 | 119 | 190 | 240 |
X230t | 3437 3438 | 65 | 129 | 186 | 215 | 300 |
S230u “Twist” | 20C4 3347 | 32 | 50 | 90 | 130 | 190 |
- Hell yea, the X300 Series, best keyboard… or the 25th Anniversary TP
- X30x have 1.8″ SATA bays, so buy a 1.8″ to mSATA adapter bc those OG SSDs are expensive, uncommon & have lower disk size volume than newer mSATA types
- X200 and X201 both use traditional 2.5″ SATA drives, I think they are SATA III speeds idk
- all these use the classic barrel charger
65W Big Barrel Charger – On all systems
8GB Max RAM – X300 up to X201
Two batteries – X3xx can have DVD battery, X2xx can have slice battery or thru ultrabase’s ultrabay
iGPU – On all systems, but goddamn the X300 is so lackluster with DDR2 and 1.2GHz CPU… 🙁
WXGA+ – X300, X301 as standard and select X200s & X201s (Lenovo logo on left of LCD bezel)
Libreboot is making prices for X200 higher than it should, it’s also affecting X301 as well. This also marks the end of the ‘s’ variant for mainstream sales until 2019.
16:9 Ultraportable & Ultrabook Flagship
2011 – 2014
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | HIgh | EX+ |
X220 | 4287 4290 4291 | 135 | 72 | 110 | 150 | 207 |
X220 Coreboot | 19 | 140 | 160 | 233 | 350 | |
X220i | 4286 4287 | 9 | 50 | 100 | 140 | 213 |
E220s | 5038 | 1 | 48 | – | – | – |
X230 | 2320 2324 2325 | 138 | 76 | 110 | 170 | 245 |
X230 Coreboot | 19 | 150 | 225 | 280 | 326 | |
X230s | – | – | – | – | – | |
X330 51nb | 13″ LCD | – | – | – | – |
13″ | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | high | EX+ |
X1 | 1286 1291 1293 1294 | 6 | 48 | 80 | 95 | – |
Edge 13 | ??? | 2 | 33 | 80 | – | – |
14″ | ||||||
X1 Carbon | 3440 3444 3448 3460 | 91 | 60 | 89 | 133 | 221 |
12″ Ultrabook & 14″ Ultrabook Flagship
2013 – 2017
12″ | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
X240 | 20AL 20AM | 324 | 50 | 90 | 116 | 180 |
X240s | – | 0 | – | – | – | – |
X250 | 20CL 20CM | 12 | 60 | 100 | 130 | 250 |
X250 Has | 20CL 20CM | – | – | – | – | |
X250 Broad | 20CL 20CM | – | – | – | – | |
X260 | 20F5 20F6 | 22 | – | – | – | 260 |
X270 ‘Sky’ | 20K5 20K6 | 14 | – | – | – | 252 |
x270 Kaby | 20HM 20HN | 27 | 84 | – | 200 | 274 |
Flipping Tablet | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
Yoga S1 | 20CD 20C0 | 74 | 50 | 71 | 160 | 250 |
Yoga 12 | 20DK 20DL -Not 20KJ…. | 42 | 56 | 80 | 151 | 204 |
Yoga 260 | 20FD 20FE 20GS | 190 | 72 | 120 | 180 | 250 |
Yoga 370 | 20JH 20HH | 149 | 96 | 162 | 215 | 292 |
- Rectangle Slim Chrger – All systems
- Soldered RAM – 4GB or 8GB on all systems, max 16GB on X1C3 or X1C4 if you’re lucky
- + 1 RAM slot – On all X2xx series here
- Storage
- 2.5″ SATA – X230 thru X250
- Secondary 2242 B+M mSATA – X240 to X250
- SATAe – X260 (only drive)
- Fucked SSDs – X1C is hella proprietary
- m.2 SATA – X1C2
- NVMe 2280 – X1C3 is 2×4, X1C4 is 3×4
- 2.5″ SATA – X230 thru X250
- Meh Display – X1C2 has 900p as default, X1C3 has FHD TN as default
- FHD IPS default – On X1C4 and onward
- WQHD IPS – Options on X1C2 thru X1C4
X1C2 | 20A7 20A8 | 124 | 75 | 105 | 153 | 208 |
X1C3 | 20BS 20BT | 130 | 81 | 104 | 129 | 190 |
X1C4 | 20FB 20FC | 317 | 111 | 151 | 225 | 339 |
X1C5 Sky | 20K3 20K4 | 134 | 114 | 143 | 199 | 231 |
X1C5 ‘Kaby’ | 20HQ 20HR | 156 | 154 | 192 | 249 | 307 |
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
X1 Yoga | 20FQ 20FR | 26 | 247 | 270 | 340 | 400 |
X1Y2 | 20JD 20JE 20JF 20JG | 71 | 243 | 318 | 384 | 490 |
X1 Yoga Gen 1 =X1 Carbon 4
X1 Yoga Gen 2 = X1C5
2018 Refresh
Redesign | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
X280 ALL | 20KE 20KF | 70 | 65 | – | 207 | 300 |
X280 Kaby | 20KE 20KF | 0 | – | – | – | – |
X280 K-R | 20KE 20KF | 48 | 65 | – | 207 | 300 |
L380 | 20M5 20M6 | 68 | 72 | 110 | 165 | 230 |
X1C6 | 20KG 20KH | 470 | 210 | 255 | 353 | 461 |
X1C6 Kaby | 20KG 20KH | 17 | 133 | 149 | 178 | 250 |
X1C6 K-R | 20KG 20KH | 460 | 200 | 267 | 350 | 490 |
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
X1Y3 All | 20LD 20LE 20LF 20LG | 206 | 243 | 284 | 400 | 650 |
X1Y3 Kaby | 20LD 20LE | 17 | 90 | 140 | 200 | 300 |
X1Y3 Kaby R | 20LD 20LE 20LF 20LG | 153 | 240 | 280 | 350 | 490 |
X1 Carbon 2012 – 2018 buying guide
2019 to 2021
13.3″ X | MTM | Sold | Lower | Mid Tier | High AF | E X PLUS |
X390 All | 20Q0 20Q1 20SC 20SD | 119 | 130 | 190 | 264 | 330 |
X390 Comet | 20Q0 20Q1 | 4 | – | – | 215 | 330 |
X390 Whiskey | 20SC 20SD | 102 | 135 | 190 | 264 | 350 |
X395 | 20NL 20NM | 18 | 151 | 200 | 250 | 326 |
X13 Intel G1 | 20T2 20T3 | 61 | 233 | 306 | 400 | 525 |
X13 Ryzen | 20UF 20UG | 15 | 270 | 317 | 340 | 420 |
X13 Intel G2 | 20WK 20WL | 51 | 354 | 442 | 520 | 678 |
X13 Ryzen G2 | 20XH 20XJ | 22 | 300 | 444 | 500 | 658 |
13″ Tablet | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
Yoga X380 | 20LH 20LJ | 115 | 128 | 176 | 212 | 330 |
Yoga X390 | 20NN 20NQ | 106 | 168 | 201 | 280 | 400 |
X13Y1 | 20SX 20SY | 38 | 237 | 300 | 450 | 827 |
X13Y2 | 20W8 20W9 | 33 | 338 | 440 | 520 | 1000 |
USB-C Chargers – X1C5, X1Y2, X280, A285 some X270. and then all systems later
Rectangle Charger – some X270 systems, all A275
What the fuck? – Yeah TWO CPU generations on a lot of these fucking machines
8GB or 16GB – Max RAM on X1 systems
Display – FHD and WQHD screens on X1C5/6; FHD, WQHD, & UHD on X1C7
Quadcore – On Kaby Lake R, & Whisky Lake, sixcore on i7-10710U X1C7. uh idk on X series machines, I don’t think so… not looking for now 😀
Healing BIOS – Begins on X1C7…
L Series | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
L390 | 20NR 20NS | 42 | 101 | 150 | 200 | 250 |
L13 Intel G1 | 20R3 20R4 | 55 | 165 | 210 | 280 | 340 |
L13 Intel G2 | 20VH 20VJ | 67 | 145 | 230 | 338 | 450 |
L13 AMD G2 | 21AB 21AC | 20 | 270 | 370 | 415 | 500 |
L Tablet | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | HIgh | EX+ |
Yoga L380 | 20M7 20M8 | 78 | 115 | 143 | 219 | 280 |
Yoga L390 | 20NT 20NU | 52 | 130 | 162 | 205 | 240 |
L13Y1 Intel | 20R5 20R6 | 38 | 160 | 200 | 250 | 294 |
L13 Y2 Intel | 20VK 20VL | 54 | 270 | 330 | 500 | 649 |
L13Y2 AMD | 21AD 21AE | 31 | 300 | 385 | 450 | 649 |
X1 Carbon | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
X1C7 Whiskey | 20QD 20QE | 428 | 239 | 309 | 446 | 580 |
X1C7 Comet | 20R1 20R2 | 85 | 330 | 400 | 490 | 604 |
X1C8 | 20U9 20UA | 197 | 380 | 450 | 590 | 743 |
16:10 | ||||||
X1C9 | 20XW 20XX | 290 | 600 | 720 | 860 | 1300 |
X1 Nano | 20UN20UQ | 72 | 508 | 600 | 780 | 950 |
X1 Yoga | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
X1 Yoga 4 | 20QF 20QG 20SA 20SB | 119 | 289 | 350 | 480 | 552 |
X1Y4 Whisky | 20QF 20QG | 77 | 255 | 356 | 420 | 500 |
X1Y4 Comet | 20SA 20SB | 33 | 360 | 430 | 510 | 580 |
X1Y5 | 20UB 20UC | 54 | 383 | 440 | 534 | 690 |
14″ 16:10 | ||||||
X1 Yoga 6 | 20XY 20Y0 | 169 | 540 | 680 | 923 | 1150 |
3:2 13.5″ | ||||||
X1 Titanium Yoga | 20QA 20QB | 46 | 400 | 490 | 620 | 800 |
Quadcores – On all machines, except some i7 X1C8, which is sixcore. Wait the Nano has even more lesser powered CPUs, SULV?
Memory – 8 or 16GB RAM configs on all machines, 32GB possible on X1C9
Display– Too much to list, but X1C9 (and later?) is now 16:10 format & Nano has 2K as standard
SSD – 2280 NVMe 3×4 on X1C8, 4×4 on X1C9 and the smaller 2242 3×4 on the X1 Nano & Titanium
2022 and Later Models
Skipping X13 ones
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
X1C 10 | 21CB 21CC | 194 | 790 | 919 | 1230 | 1500 |
X1C 11 | 21HM 21HN | 83 | 980 | 1146 | 1400 | 1750 |
New Z Series | ||||||
Z13 G1 | 21D2 21D3 | 50 | 600 | 800 | 900 | 1100 |
Z13 G2 | 21JV 21JW | 0 | 2070 | – | – | – |
Z Series uses Ryzen CPUs, all iGPU and has the return of the clickpad!
ThinkPad Slate Tablets
2011 – 2021
8″ to 10″ | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
TP Tablet | 1838 1839 | 0 | – | – | – | – |
TP Tablet 2 | 3679 3682 | 6 | 70 | 100 | – | – |
TP 8 | 20BN 20BQ | 0 | – | – | – | 160 |
TP 10 G1 | 20C1 20C3 | 2 | 68 | – | 132 | – |
TP 10 G2 | 20E3 20E4 | 7 | 21 | 48 | 89 | 173 |
11.6″ FHD | ||||||
Helix | 3698 3701 3702 | 15 | 60 | 104 | 186 | 211 |
Helix 2 | 20CG 20CH | 2 | 60 | – | 150 | – |
12″ 3:2 | ||||||
X1 Tablet | 20GG | 2 | 92 | – | 302 | – |
X1T2 | 20JB 20JC | 2 | 220 | 351 | – | 914 |
13″ 3:2 | ||||||
X1T3 | 20KJ | 64 | 223 | 310 | 380 | 420 |
12.3″ 3:2 | ||||||
X12 Detachable | 20UV 20UW | 468 | 600 | 878 | 1000 |
- Android – TP Tablets, TP 8, 10
- PC – Helix, X1T, X12, X1 Fold
- RAM
- 1 GB – TP Tablet 1
- 2 GB – TP Tablet 2, Tablet 8, Tablet 10 (G1, G2)
- 4 GB – Helix (1 & 2), Tablet 8, Tablet 10 (G1, G2), X1 Tablet (G1, G2), X12
- 8 GB – Helix (1 & 2), X1 Tablets (G1, G2, G3), X12, X1 Fold
- 16GB – X1 Tablet (G1, G2, G3), X12
- Storage
- Soldered eMMC – TP Tablet (1, 2), ThinkPad 8″, ThinkPad 10″ (G1, G2)
- mSATA – Helix
- m.2 2280
- NVMe 3×2 – Helix 2
- NVMe 3×4 – X1 Tablet
- m.2 2242
- NVMe 3×4 – X12, X1 Fold
- m.2 2280
- Display
- 16:9
- HD 1366 x 768
- 10.1″ – TP Tablet 2
- FHD 1920 x1080
- 11.6″ – Helix 1, 2
- HD 1366 x 768
- 16:10
- WXGA 1280 x 800
- 10.1″ TP Tablet 1
- WUXGA 1920 x 1200
- 8.3″ – TP Tablet 8″
- 10.1″ – TP Tablet 10 (G1, G2)
- WXGA 1280 x 800
- 4:3
- QXGA 2048 x 1536
- 13.3″ – X1 Fold
- QXGA 2048 x 1536
- 3:2
- FHD+ 1920 x 1280
- 12.0″ – X1 Tablet (G1, G2)
- 12.3″ – X12
- QHD+ 3000 x 2000
- 13.0″ – X1 Tablet G3
- FHD+ 1920 x 1280
- 16:9
- Chargers
- Micro USB 10W
- TP Tablet (1, 2), ThinkPad 8″
- USB-ish 36W
- Helix 2
- Rectangle 36W
- Helix 1
- “Unique New Connector” 36W
- ThinkPad 10 (G1, G2)
- USB-C 45W
- X1 Tablet (G1, G2, G3
- USB-C 65W
- X1 Tablet (G2, G3), X1 Fold
- Micro USB 10W
ThinkPad Yoga (some of them)
2014 – 2018
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
Yoga S1 | 20CD 20C0 | 110 | 70 | 130 | 180 | 250 |
Yoga 12 | 20DK 20DL | 55 | 60 | 105 | 150 | 210 |
Yoga 14 | 20DM (20DN?) | 4 | 60 | 130 | 190 | 230 |
Yoga 15 | 20DQ | 30 | 115 | 145 | 170 | 230 |
Yoga 260 | 20FD 20FE 20GS | 230 | 110 | 160 | 215 | 350 |
Yoga 460 | 20EL 20EM | 85 | 95 | 162 | 200 | 300 |
P40 Yoga | 20GQ 20GR | 22 | 153 | 240 | 290 | 355 |
Yoga 370 | 20JH 20HH | 125 | 125 | 178 | 270 | 360 |
No notes… at least these are all IPS. I used a Yoga 460 for a bit, didn’t care for how it felt. IPS screen was nice, 1080p, but keyboard feel? Yuck. Studryness? L Series like. As flimsy the S230 Twist was, it FELT a bit durable… but what do i know? P40 has discrete graphics and Yoga 15 might be able to… Supposedly there are an S2, S3 and I think S3 Yoga, but I think they are codewords for some of these machines I have listed.
Performance
Gonna start old school
Then 15″ A, G, T
15″ W to P Series
17″ W and P Series
14″ oddities w/ 15″ Slim (including X1E)
Classic Portables
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ | Date |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
PS/2 P70 386 | 8573 | 3 | 280 | 310 | 396 | 600? | 1989 06 |
PS/55 5545-T | 5545-T | 0 | – | – | – | – | 1990 05 |
PS/2 P75 486 | 8573 | 0 | – | – | – | – | 1990 12 |
Gas plasma display, wired keyboard, fucking funkey ass case. Check MCA mafia for info on these, good luck.
PS/55 Behemoths
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ | Date |
5535-YAC | 0 | – | – | – | – | 1993 05 ? | |
5535-ZTD | 0 | – | – | – | – | 1994 07 ? | |
5535-ZMM | 0 | – | – | – | – | 1995 08 ? | |
5535-ZEE | 0 | – | – | – | – | 1997 06 ? | |
5535-ZTE | 0 | – | – | – | – | 1998 03 ? | |
5535-ZPP | 0 | – | – | – | – | 1999 08 ? |
These machines aren’t laptops, they are more like desktops with a clamshell form factor and they are part of the PS/55 family. So TOTALLY not a ThinkPad, however they are painted in black, have a trackpoint, fuckton of ports, and was probably built in Yamato labs. Yeah its a ThinkPad like the P110 PalmTop is, rather have one of these than that fuckshit L40 SX, oh and my buddy sharktastica has an article about what keyboard it probably has.
800 Series – The PowerPC ThinkPad
PowerPC | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ | Release |
RS/6000 N40 | 7007 | 1 | 500 | – | – | – | 1994 03 |
Power Laptop EWS | concept? | 1994 09 | |||||
800 PReP | 6020 | 0 | – | – | – | – | 1995 01 |
820 | 6040 | 2 | 570 | 630 | – | – | 1995 07 |
850 | 6042 | 0 | – | – | 1225 | 5100 | 1995 07 |
821 | 7247 | 0 | – | – | – | – | 1996 04 |
822 | 7247 | 0 | – | – | – | – | 1996 04 |
823 | 7247 | 0 | – | – | – | – | 1996 04 |
851 | 7249 | 0 | – | – | – | – | 1996 05 |
RS/6000 NoteBook 860 | 7249 | 0 | – | – | – | – | 1996 11 |
Good fucking luck getting these cheap… FUCK me for not seeing the “lot of 2 thinkpads” one was a 600 and another, an 850 or 820, both sold for like $80… FUCK. Anyways, there was one unit being sold for like $1600 that didn’t work and lmafo, it was bc the guy bought a dud. only sold 850 was listed as a “BM PowerPC 850”. I literally hate life, the fuck i am not going to just put random letters of IBM in searches for these things, IMB should be enough. w/e
The 851 (maybe 850) is the one ThinkPad that can have a webcam. It might be the “first” laptop w/ a webcam but I think the Sony Vaio C1 Picturebook beat it out.
A Series Pentium III
Desktop Replacement
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ | Release |
A20p | 2629 | 0 | 45 | – | – | 233 | 2000 05 |
A21p | 2629 | 1 | 30 | 123 | – | – | 2000 09 |
A22p | 2929 | 2 | – | 124 | – | 284 | 2001 04 |
A30p | 2653 | 1 | – | 125 | – | – | 2001 10 |
Pentium 4
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ | Release |
A31p | 2653 | 1 | – | – | – | 230 | 2002 03 |
G40 | 2384 2388 | 5 | 55 | 70 | 130 | 165 | 2003 4 |
G41 | 2881 2882 2886 | 3 | 76 | 90 | 117 | 215 | 2004 10 |
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ | Release |
R50p | 1832-23U | 1 | – | 99 | 160 | – | 2003 11 |
T40p | 2373-G1U | 0 | 53 | 60 | 120 | 255 | 03 2003 |
T41p | 2373-GEU 2372-GGU | 1 | 41 | 62 | 135 | – | 2003 11 |
T42p | 2372 2373 2374 2379 | 11 | 57 | 70 | 90 | 250 | 05 2004 |
T43p | 2668* 2669* | 5 | 165 | 213 | 410 | 670 | 05 2005 |
Memory – 2GB DDR on T40p, T41, 2GB DDR2 on T42p, T43p
PATA Drives – On all (T43p can be SATA if mod), get an IDE to mSATA or CF Card adapter, IDE SSDs are either too old or crap. HM160HC is recommended via TP Forums but may have a speed issue.
SXGA+ or UXGA IPS – Former on 14″ machines, later on 15″ machines, nothing else. As it should be. but god… 150 Nits or 200 nits luminance, for that classic feel. YMMV for LED mod options.
72W “Coax” Charger – Recommended on these machines, maybe you can get away w/ the 60W on the 14″ machines, but not recommended.
Pentium M – Banias CPUs on T40p, T41p; Dolthan on T42p, T43p
ATI GPUs – Classic gaming feel
Thin as fuck. R series not so much, but T40 thru T42 are known to have the bad southbridge chip, that can flex by holding it by one had. IDK if its FUD, but enthusiasts say hold by two hands. It got fixed ont the T43p supposedly…. but yeah. way smaller feeling than the T60, then T61, and W500. Whatever, and when it came to the T430s i own? T43p still felt thinner…. it was like the precursor to the X300 but/… sturdy-ish munus the flex? ok thats ass.
T43p prices have doubled since TPG 7…
Core 2 Duo Classic
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
T60p | 2373 2374 2379 | 13 | 84 | 103 | 150 | 400 |
G50 | – | 0 | – | – | – | – |
T61p | 1871 2668 2669 | 17 | 70 | 100 | 159 | 220 |
T61F T601F R601 | – | 3 | 303 | 413 | 425 | – |
T70 51nb | 2007 2623 2008 8744 | 0 | – | – | – | – |
- DDR2
- 3GB T60p, Z61p, G50
- 8GB for T61p
- SATA I Speeds –
- T61p can get SATA II w/ Middleton BIOS
- On all machines
- T61 Wikia – Via ThinkPad Forums 🙂
- Screens
- T60p – SXGA+ TN, UXGA IPS, WSXGA+ TN
- G50 – 15″ XGA
- Z61p – WUXGA
- T61p – SXGA+, WXGA+, WSXGA+ or WUXGA for 15″
- Big Barrel Chargers – On these machines, 90W recommended
- dGPU –
- All systems except G50
- Z61p may be the most “safe one”, but ATI systems do sometimes fail
- T61p is the worst w/ nVidia due to the BGA solder fiasco… ticking timebomb
- systems or mobo’s built after August 2008 are fine tho (check mobo)
16:10 | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
Z61p | 9450-3AU 9450-A1U 9452-JRU | 1 | – | – | – | 308 |
W500 | 4062 4061 4063 | 16 | 65 | 80 | 120 | 196 |
Buy a W500… but yeah, G50 is fuckign asss ass ass asss ass ass ass. dont buy one, buy the others…. T60p probably one of the best build quality machines you can get… wish they went more robust with it, but w/e…. lighter. Z series is cool too, but doesn’t get that magnesium lid… swap it. Amazingly this system, despite not really vsing the T60p (14″, 15″ and widescreen 15.4″), it had a WUXGA as standard while the T60p didnt… even though it had a UXGA variant, only a WXSXGA+ was available… at least on my notes via PSREF 🙂 G50? XGA ass fuck shit fuck whack fuck u
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
W510 | 4319 4389 4391 | 23 | 74 | 118 | 150 | 203 |
W520 | 4270 4276 4282 4284 | 53 | 92 | 130 | 216 | 320 |
W530 | 2438 2441 2447 | 142 | 96 | 150 | 225 | 350 |
W540 | 20BG 20BH | 118 | 108 | 166 | 238 | 300 |
W541 | 20EF 20EG | 92 | 104 | 150 | 250 | 330 |
- Display
- 16:10
- WXGA – W500, 11: W700ds, W701ds
- WXGA+ – W700, W701
- WSXGA+ – W500
- WUXGA – W500, W700, default on W700ds & W701ds
- HD, HD+, FHD
- W510, W520, W530
- W540/1 come FHD (not IPS) & a 3K IPS panel w/ 99% sRGB
- W510, W520, W530
- Cucked – W500 thru W530 start WXGA/HD & can get up to WUXGA/FHD
- 16:10
- RAM – Two RAM slots on dualcore based systems, four on quadcores
- 8GB – Core 2 Duo/Extreme/Quad
- 32GB max – On Quad i7 machines (if it has four slots)
- AC Adapters
- Big Barrel
- 90W on W500
- Sloted Big Barrel
- 135W on W510
- 170W on W520, W530, some W701
- 230W on other W701 and all W701ds
- Rectangle Slim
- 135W or 170W on W540/1, depending on DC/Q
- Big Barrel
- ATI Graphics – W500 machines
- nVidia 1GB or 2GB – On W700, W701, & W510 through W541 machines
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
P50 | 20EN 20EQ | 338 | 197 | 254 | 325 | 480 |
P51 | 20HH 20MM | 165 | 217 | 283 | 450 | 600 |
P52 | 20M9 | 147 | 335 | 384 | 500 | 630 |
P53 | 20QN 20QQ | 212 | 430 | 550 | 850 | 1050 |
- P15, P17 notes
- Quadcores – P50, P51, P53, P15 G1
- SixCores – P52, P53, P15 G1 & G2
- Eight Cores – P53, P15 G1 & G2
- SixCores – P52, P53, P15 G1 & G2
- ULV DualCore (Later quadcore)
- P50s
- Quadcores – P50, P51, P53, P15 G1
- DDR4 Max – 64GB on P50, P51; 128GB RAM on P52, P53, P15 G1 & G2
- 3x Drives (2.5″ & 2x NVMe 3×4) – P50 to P52, P53 if T1000 or T2000 GPU
- 2x NVMe 3×4 – P53 if RTX GPUs & P15 G1
- 2x NVMe 3×4 + 1x NVMe 4×4 – P15 G2
- 2x NVMe 3×4 – P53 if RTX GPUs & P15 G1
- 3x Drives (2.5″ & 2x NVMe 3×4) – P50 to P52, P53 if T1000 or T2000 GPU
- Displays – All IPS FHD or 4K/UHD, or OLED 4K option on P53 thru P15 G2
- Chargers – 170W Rectangle on All, 230W on beffy P53 thru P15 G2
IDK what to say about these…. P50 has the OG hinges and not the drop hinges. The keyboard feel on them is fucking amazing too… felt like I was using a T60 but not that nostalgic. Still fucking way better than my T460p and W550s. Oh yeah the frame fucking felt really good on it too.
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
P15 G1 | 20ST 20SU | 65 | 538 | 690 | 1100 | 1623 |
P15 G2 | 20YQ 20YR | 60 | 684 | 922 | 1200 | 1365 |
Clone | ||||||
T15g G1 | 20UR 20US | 22 | 615 | 740 | 900 | 1050 |
T15g G2 | 20YS 20YT | 16 | 750 | 950 | 1200 | 1550 |
T15 based | ||||||
P15v G1 | 20TQ 20TR | 20 | 430 | 523 | 650 | 902 |
P15v G2 | 21A9 21AA | 26 | 525 | 700 | 900 | 1088 |
T15p G1 | 20TM 20TN | 12 | 388 | 500 | 750 | 915 |
T15p G2 | 21A7 21A8 | 15 | 490 | 650 | 750 | 1300 |
Cheaper P15 – T15g is your bet, nVidia RTX instead of Quadro & similar LCD configs
Powerful T15 – P15v & T15p are in a similar frame but have workstation CPUs.
P15v has Xeon options, quadro graphics while T15p is iGPU or GeForce
17″
17″ 16:10 | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
W700 | 2758 2752 2753 | 2 | 166 | 291 | – | – |
W700ds | 2758-MMU MYU 2752-EPU E7U 2753-E7U | 0 | – | – | – | – |
W701 | 2500 2541 2542 | 2 | – | 311 | 411 | – |
W701ds | 2500 2541 | 2 | – | – | 1000 | 1226 |
17.3″ 16:9 | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | HIgh | EX+ |
P70 | 20ER 20ES | 36 | 272 | 330 | 557 | 685 |
P71 | 20HK 20HL | 20 | 360 | 414 | 550 | 650 |
P72 | 20MB | 31 | 400 | 500 | 712 | 950 |
P73 | 20QR 20QS | 41 | 451 | 625 | 840 | 1460 |
15″ Slim
P15s, P1, X1 Extreme
2015 | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
W550s | 20E1 20E2 2E02 2E03 | 27 | 118 | 136 | 170 | 240 |
2016, 2017 | ||||||
P50s | 20FK 20FL | 48 | 124 | 153 | 217 | 249 |
P51s | 20HB 20JY | 56 | 135 | 215 | 275 | 350 |
P51s Sky | 14 | 150 | 203 | 230 | 320 | |
P51s Kaby | 37 | 130 | 210 | 275 | 350 |
2018, 2019 Models
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
P52s | 20LB | 135 | 174 | 252 | 400 | 545 |
P53s | 20N6 20N7 | 59 | 240 | 307 | 450 | 580 |
P1 G1 | 20MD 20ME | 59 | 290 | 350 | 430 | 494 |
P1 G2 | 20QT 20QU | 91 | 375 | 450 | 570 | 800 |
X1 Extreme | 20MF 20MG | 54 | 366 | 470 | 660 | 950 |
X1 Extreme G2 | 20QV 20QW | 62 | 370 | 557 | 680 | 800 |
Notes about the P1 & X1 Extreme
Because of their thinness, the cooling fans are smaller and heat sinks too, so cooling performance will be compromised, which is worst on heavy tasks vs the P15. When the 2nd Gen systems dropped, they brought iGPUs into the configs. From what I’ve seen, most sellers say what fucking GPU comes in the machine, because…. idk you get clicks, and it sells a lot higher when you have non-shit graphics. YMMV on these machines, they are similar (X1E, P1 systems), so YOLO.
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
P15s G1 | 20T4 20T5 | 50 | 362 | 425 | 550 | 650 |
P15s G2 | 20W6 20W7 | 50 | 500 | 639 | 800 | 1000 |
P1 G3 | 20TH 20TJ | 51 | 565 | 665 | 805 | 1000 |
X1E G3 | 20TK 20TL | 48 | 550 | 700 | 930 | 1300 |
16:10 | ||||||
P1 G4 | 20Y3 20Y4 | 72 | 840 | 1000 | 1300 | 1600 |
X1E G4 | 20Y5 20Y6 | 33 | 812 | 1000 | 1300 | 1600 |
14″ Skylake Kaby-Lake HQ
14″ Ultrabook 2019 to 2021
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
P43s | 20RH 20RJ | 30 | 200 | 242 | 330 | 395 |
P14s G1 Intel | 20S4 20S5 | 36 | 275 | 350 | 425 | 525 |
P14s G2 Intel | 20VX 20VY | 71 | 437 | 550 | 736 | 957 |
P14s G1 AMD | 20Y1 20Y2 | 13 | 345 | 390 | 450 | 590 |
P14s G2 AMD | 21A0 21A1 | 35 | 408 | 500 | 597 | 750 |
- dGPU systems
- P43, P14 G1 Intel, and some P14s G2 Intels
- iGPU
- P14 G2 Intel, both AMD P14s G1 or G2
10″ & 11″ Mini-Laptops & Netbooks
11″ AMD NetBook / School Laptop – 2010 to 2011
X Series | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
X100e | 3508 2876 3508 | 7 | 25 | 50 | 65 | – |
Mini 10 | – | |||||
X120e | 0596 0611 | 8 | 53 | 65 | 85 | |
X121e | 3045 3051 | 0 | – | – | – | – |
- Base CPU w/ 1.5/6GHz single core, 1.6GHz dualcore otherwise
- all have 11.6″ 720p display w/ 200nits & 300:1 contrast ratio
- 2.5″ 9.5mm SATA II drives, no SATA III 🙁
- 65W big barrel charger
- Max RAM – 4GB DDR on X100/Mini 10, 8GB DDR3 on X120e
Other than getting a slate tablet w/ keyboard, these are probably the smallest “latest” ThinkPads one could get sub 13″. Oh wait I forgot about the 11e… nvm those are better i think. I do not recommend them, fucking slow as shit, maybe make something with a jukebook with one of these idk. Oh fuck, I forgot about the X1 fold… smallest thinkpad i guess.
11″ AMD/Intel School NetBook / Chromebook – 2012 to 2014
Beer | Pilsner | Stout | Lager | Mead | Hefeweizen | IPA+ |
X130e | 6 | 25 | 40 | 69 | – | |
X130e Intel | 0622 0627 | 0 | – | – | – | – |
X130e AMD | 0622 0627 | 6 | 25 | 40 | 69 | – |
X131e | 3368 3367 3372 3371 | 41 | 40 | 60 | 75 | 120 |
X131e Intel | – | 13 | 40 | 65 | 75 | 145 |
X131e AMD | – | 6 | – | 60 | 70 | – |
X140e | 20BL 20BM | 13 | 35 | 68 | 110 | 140 |
X140e AMD | 20BL | 13 | 35 | 68 | 110 | 140 |
- HDD/SSD – eMMC on some models
- X130e – 2.5″ 9.5mm SATA II only
- X131e – 2.5″ 9.5mm SATA II + mSATA
- X140e – 2.5″ 9.5mm SATA III + mSATA
- LCD – 11.6″ HD
- 200N/300C on X130 & X131e
- 200N/500C on X140e
- RAM
- 16GB DDR3 Max on X130 & X131e
- 16GB DDR3L Max on X140e
- 65W Big Barrel charger on all
- iGPU on all *duh*
- BUT WAIT, AMD APU GAAAAAAAAMING GRAPHICS OH YEAAHHHAHAHHA
- Processors….
- Most of these have meh one-point-whatever DC AMD/Celeron
- 1.4Ghz i3-2367m on X130e & X131e if you’re lucky
- FUCKIGN 1.9GHz i3-3227u MONSTER on extra lucky X131e
In the past, I’ve seen some sellers call these “budget gaming laptops’ because AMD CPU = Gaming.
Back to these, the creme of the crop is that 1.9GHz i3, an entry level ultrabook CPU, its Ivy bridge vs the Sandy bridge meh tier i3. For sure it is nowhere near an i5-3320m, but its much faster than the quadcore AMD cpu. Shilling aside, these are fucking big (X130, X140) because of that hard case lid and rubber bumper around it. Honestly it’s pretty strange because the 11e has some of a bumper but it isn’t anywhere as big as the 11e.
Cheap Student Laptop – 2014 to 2020
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
11e G1 | 20DA 20D9 | 12 | 43 | 60 | 72 | 80 |
11e 2 ‘AMD’ | 20ED 20EE | 13 | 40 | 72 | 150 | |
11e 2 ‘M-5Y10c’ | 20E6 20E8 | 1 | – | 69 | – | 115 |
11e 3 | 20GB | 20 | 58 | 70 | – | 165 |
11e 4 | 20HV | 10 | 38 | 75 | 99 | – |
11e 5 | 20LQ 20LR | 8 | 51 | 78 | 100 | 130 |
11e CB | 20DB 20DU | 25 | 35 | 50 | 87 | – |
11e CB3 | 20GB 20GF | 7 | 33 | 65 | – | – |
11e CB4 | 20HX 20J0 | 0 | 40 | – | – | – |
- CPU Gen
- G1 – Celeron N29xx “Bay Trail”
- G2 – Intel Core M Broadwell or AMD A4/E2 (2015)
- G3 – Skylake i3-6xxx, Celeron N31xx or Pentium of that era
- G4 – Kaby i3-7xxx, or Celeron N34xx
- G5 – Celeron N41xx or Pentium S N50xx
- Who fucking cares about cores, forget about it!
- Memory Things
- Soldered – 11e G2 Intel, 11e G5, and all Chromebooks here
- 1 Slot – 11e G1, G2 AMD, G3, G4
- Max RAM
- 2/4GB – 11e Chromebook G1 or G3
- 4GB LPDDR4 – 11e Chromebook G4
- 4/8GB – 11e G2 intel, 11e G5
- 8GB DDR3L – 11e G1, G2, G3, G4 (non i3)
- 8GB DDR4 – 11e G4 i3 version
- Max RAM
- Storage
factsrumors – because i cant verify fully via PSREF- 16GB eMMC – 11e CB1 & CB3
- 32GB eMMC – 11e CB4
- 64/128GB eMMC – 11e G5 (some models)
- 2.5″ 7mm SATA II – 11e G1
- 2.5″ 7mm SATA III – 11e G2
- m.2 SATA III – 11e G3, G4 (m.2 2242 size? idk)
- m.2 2242 PCIe 3×2 – 11e G5 (some models)
- Display – 11.6″ HD
- 200N/400C – 11e G1
- 200N/500C – 11e G2, & CB1
- 220N/500C – 11e G3 & CB3
- 250N/400C – 11e G5
- 250N/500C – 11e G4, G5, & CB4
- 250N/800C IPS 45% NTSC – 11e G5
- Power Adapter
- Rectangle 45W – 11e G1 thru G5, CB1, CB3
- USB-C 45W – 11e G5, & CB4
- Rectangle or USB-C 65W – 11e G5
This is concise as it can be… in previous TPG iterations, I had literally just mixed all 11e machines together. So I didn’t bother researching the Yoga (tablet) versions or the Chromebook versions. I just simply did Gen and called it a day, or as far as I can remember at 9AM of editing this… not gonna look at the old version right now, thats like fucking seeing your old drawings… even though its been a year between each guide. SO yeah the guide spreadsheet if you wish to look at the link, has specific fucking CPUs these came with. In the later sections of the field. Most of the same gen systems have similar CPUs, but there are some specialties. For the laptops here, you’re gonna basically get an X131e or X140e equivalent screen, Yogas are better. Yeah these do not have a trackpoint. So what. It’s included in the guide anyways, because I like these more than Edge & E Series ThinkPads. 😀 Get one of these for a burner i guess, but I really recommend getting the Yoga versions instead.
11e Yoga – 2014 to 2020
Model | MTM | Sold | Low | Mid | High | EX+ |
Yoga 11e CB G3 | 20GC 20GE | 9 | 32 | 50 | 57 | – |
Yoga 11e CB G4 | 20HW 20HY | 5 | 36 | – | – | 130 |
Yoga 11e G1 | 20DB 20DU +20D9 20DA | 51 | 42 | 58 | 86 | – |
Yoga 11e G2 | 20E5 20E7 | 5 | 55 | – | 95 | – |
Yoga 11e G3 | 20GA | 37 | 65 | 95 | – | 166 |
Yoga 11e G4 | 20HU | 19 | 59 | 80 | – | – |
Yoga 11e G5 | 20LM 20LN | 62 | 24 | 43 | 88 | 175 |
11e Yoga 6th Gen | 20SE 20SF | 34 | 115 | 170 | 220 | – |
- CPU Gen
- Literally the same like the ones earlier except…
- Core M, Kaby Lake R – 11e Yoga 6th Gen
- Literally the same like the ones earlier except…
- Memory
- Yup, just the same like the 11e basic.
- Yeah I know I could of just copy paste, but then that would be boring
- 4/8GB LPDDR3 – 11e Yoga G5
- Storage
- ….
- m.2 2242 PCIe 3×2 – 11e Yoga 6th Gen
- ….
- Display
- IT’S THE SAME 11.6″ DISPLAY, So I’m not gonna…
- 200N/400C TFT – 11e Yoga G1
- 200N/500C TFT – 11e Yoga CB3
- 250N/800C IPS – 11e Yoga G3, G4, G5, 6th Gen, CB4
- 300N/800C IPS – 11e Yoga G2
- IT’S THE SAME 11.6″ DISPLAY, So I’m not gonna…
- Power Adapter
- Rectangle 45W – 11e Yoga G1 thru G5, CB3, CB4
- USB-C 45W – 11e Yoga G5, 6th Gen
- 65W Rectangle or USB-C – 11e Yoga 6th Gen
First off, to shill the ThinkPad Timeline I made, you’ll see what year all the thinkpads are made. Literally all, ok most of them, I may be missing a few… sadly idk how to count them, but there’s 208 models listed with the MTM of 20xx… maybe 100 or so before 2013. Ok i forgot where im going with that originally but the 11e Yoga G5 is still being made today in 2022 and it outlived the 11e Yoga 6th Gen, which was made like 2 years later. Also yeah, I shortened Gen 5 to G5 and etc if you didnt notice, but lenovo calls the G6, 6th Gen… no idea why they changed it out of nowhere, but thats how it is. yes the 11e Yoga G2 has the “best” screen out of them all, with 300 nits brightness and 800 to 1 contrast ratio, idk if the 50 nits really matters, but i guess it did with lenovo so they downgraded them.