TPG 11 – T L 14 15 16 Inch

Google sheets price guide
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zIbQxxibIBK43k_JVyCB9whL1-UuA7F5aTS7OdSlg6w/edit?usp=sharing

Previous TPG 10 Guide
TPG 11 – 14″ Classics & also 15″ Models

This is covering the 14″, 15″ & 16″ machines.
T Series, L Series & Others in between
T14s variants will be in a different guide (with X Series?)
T15g variant will be in the Workstation section

14″ T Series Socketed

ModelSoldLowMidHighEX+
T400 Libre592137180299
T410995068105170
T410i72450100135
T42019971116184300
T420i759119125155
T420
coreboot
3–279350800
T43021875115169290
T430
coreboot
560226323420
T430i3103108148–
T440p18180135229315
T440/p
libre/core
6160180320357
  • Prices were researched on June 13th 2026.
  • T400
    • Non libre EX+
  • T400 Libre
    • Dont pay EX+, its literally a $20 max chip to solder if u cant do the unlock.
      • There are 50 ways to do Libreboot, won’t link any.
  • T410
    • No notes
      • These are the last of the 16:10 before T14 came back with them
      • Note, this keyboard was changed a bit from the T400 and I don’t care for them.
  • T410i
  • T420
    • What the actual fuck? i thought I was drunk (well I just sobered up) at the fucking high price. legit asking $200+ for this shit. WITH AN I5?! UMMM ok, retro experience.
    • Lemme bring the ones I have back from the fucking grave. $30 barebones all day.
  • T420i
    • LMAO INSANE prices. i should dwelve further but no.
  • T420 coreboot
    • lmao…. EX+ for an IPS modded machine, these fucking mod chips were like $30 to $70 max.
    • a panel was $40 to $120. no way its this fucking expensive.
  • T430
  • T430 coreboot
  • T430i
  • T440p
  • T440/p libre/core
    • High price bc outside shipping. but EX+ is from USA, so yeah… youll pay def.
  • Libreboot?
    • T400, T420, T430, T440p, T480 & more to come
    • T400 & T420 only regarded bc of nostalgia… get a T480 libre instead,
  • T420 vs T430
    • Do you want chicklet keyboard and backlit? T430
    • Do you want something a bit more durable? T420
      • Or just get a T14s for the same price.
    • You can still get IPS Upgrade kits for T420 and T430, they are about $40+.
      • T430 can get Ivyrain to flash a custom bios via a bootloader
  • T440p socketed
    • Do not confuse it with the T440, it is a different motherboard and soldered!
    • Drop in FHD upgrade is awesome
    • Quadcore it too! Much easier than previous machines.
    • Some say its the ultimate ThinkPad…
      • maybe in 14″ but L440 has socketed CPU too.
      • Then the T25 came out
        • And then some have installed a T480 Mobo onto it or keyboard swap
      • 16:10 IPS ThinkPads are back soo… its kinda meh
  • 3 Drives
    • Ultrabay, 2.5″ HDD bay & mSATA from T420 & onward
    • I think T410 had mPCIE slot, so you’ll need an adapter
    • T440p had the same thing, tho some people said you could do a 4th drive with soldering experience.
      • These are the last time it was this fucking easy, Lenovo would slowly take away the ability to even have 2 drives, even tho there is space!

T & A Series Soldered

ModelSoldLowMidHighEX+
T4401255080127200
T4502005876102158
T4603537599126173
T470 All60381120162213
T470 Sky25670108135165
T470 Kaby18071110149221
T253–1,412–2,550
A4757508690111
T480 All983145200270346
T480 Kaby33140190212320
T480 Kaby R825144194260314
A4852480100110135
T480 Libre/Core43280336495570
  • T440
    • Low price might come with an OS, linked low seller, BIN listings. Oh. bios locked. Eh.
  • T450
    • One bid auction low price seller linked, barebones, they got 80 laptop listings. Otherwise toyarcade w/ a lot of listings again.
  • T460
    • High price canadian linked. πŸ™‚
  • T470 Any
    • Low-mid price seller linked, with OS, no charger, but state battery health percentage, local to me, decent pics.
  • T470 Skylake
    • Low price you might get away with an OS. High price seller linked, 40+ laptops w/ chargers, various OSes & in good condition.
  • T470 Kabylake
    • Parts laptop seller linked, they got 50+ laptops & other things, seen them around. Nothing out of the ordinary here (i am dissociating on these T Series today)
  • T25
    • OMFG, I HAD THIS MISSPELLED THE WHOLE TIME “Anniversay”! What the fuckKkkkkakakakaka!!!!!! EX+ was the only sold listing from the misspell… idk why i didnt catch this earlier! Google sheets no auto-correct or ebay in search field.
    • EX+ is sealed new in box, seller linked, more of an importer for things, not really computers.
      • Two scammers used photos from this seller ($130 BIN, Zero feedback, new account). Mid is used w/ box, they had it sold near EX+ price (minus shipping cost) but I think they got it returned bc its the same photos & then updated description about keyboard not working requiring a power cycle.
  • A475
    • Linked seller sold two low and one high. Of all sold, one is as is, two boots to bios and the rest 4 come with OS.
  • T480
    • All Mid price seller linked, they have interesting wall backgrounds that remind me of a fucking mac overpriced seller but idk if its the same one (they were not from Ohio).
      • About 60+ laptops but they got retro computers & laptops for sale in a different category.
  • T480 Kaby
    • Few libre machines here, didnt know it was possible on 7th gen. wonder if T470 is the same then.
  • T480 Kaby R
  • A485
    • EX+ got into an auction war lol and was the only one that isnt BIN or B/O.
  • T480 Libre/Core
    • Holy shit lol

The iGPUs in the 5th thru 7th gen are pretty fuckin good, so its not a big deal if you don’t get dGPU. Performance is great if you do an eGPU setup, but given the prices of graphics cards right now….
In the past T480’s (and some other 8th gen systems) had an issue with the BIOS Firmware updating and laptop not working. There are ways to reset but it would also not let you use 3rd party batteries… neat.
I included the AMD A475 & A485 machines, they are basically base T Series, and yes Lenovo would bring AMD into the T Series line up.

The T460p & T470p are not in this list, they will be at the workstation page. Yeah its not really a workstation but whatever, we have iGPU P14 Series that are essentially a T14s, fuck I think there are P14s machines too.

The T480 is regarded as “the last great ThinkPad”. Bollocks, it is not even fucking close to any of the T6x or T4xx machines, yet the goalposts keeps on changing. Ive yet to use one, but I got a T14s Gen 1, so whatever, nub like to think on its own… probably bc I didn’t install the keyboard screws correctly.

Display FAQs – IPS Brought back!

  • FHD IPS optional on T460
  • FHD IPS default from T470
  • WQHD IPS option on T480
    • IDK if you can upgrade to FHD IPS on a T440; it wasn’t available for it
      • Dun’t confuse it with the T440p r T440s those had it available & able to.
  • T450 can be upgraded to FHD IPS
  • My advice is just stick with a T470 and onwards if you for sure want IPS from factory
    • But just know that you could get a fucking laptop with a replaced shitty panel… hopefully not!

The storage situation…

  • Primary hard drive
    • 9.5mm SATA III drives
      • T440 thru T470
    • 7mm SATA III drives
      • T480
  • NVMe as primary?
    • SATAe laptops
      • T460 & T470
        • Basically these machines had two PCIe Lanes implemented on the SATA connector, I thought it looked like a SAS connector when first seeing it (tabs are one piece)
        • You can’t get PCIe 4×4, but 4×2 is pretty nice, and much faster than SATA III
    • T460
      • Cant find the actual FRU, but a part number is AM12Y000500
    • T470 & T25
      • T470 NVMe Caddy
        • I guess its compatible for the T480 too…
        • It is similar to an eDP cable
    • T480
      • Not confirming, but I think the T480 uses the same caddy for NVMe drives
        • But it is PCIe 4×4 and not 4×2!
  • 2nd Drive WLAN Slot
    • 2242 SATA III
      • T440 & T450
    • 2242 NVMe 3×2
      • T460
        • Primary drive must be SATA, it cannot support two NVMe drives
        • Im getting mixed info about WWAN accepting sata, most say only NVMe
        • I did see an NVMe to mSATA adapter… um idk about that
      • T470
        • I think it support 2242 SATA… misinfo?
      • T480
  • Note, these are the last iterations of having a 2nd hard drive for the 14″ machines
    • T15 are affected in the same way, ONE FUCKING DRIVE!
      • You can only get two or more if you go workstations. its stupid

I dont know if this is a T14s G1 or a T490, i forget if I have the latter… CLOSE ENOUGH! πŸ™‚

T Series – Intel & AMD Late Model Machines

MTMs are a thing again bc these laptops don’t say Gen 1, 2, 3 etc.
Knowing the processor helps too.

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T490 All20N2 20N3
20RX 20RY
1,183120155197270
T490 Whiskey20N2 20N3965112140187240
T490 Comet20RX 20RY53150183240350
T490 HealthCare
/ Secure Access
20Q9 20QH0––––
T49520NJ 20NK223128176241270
T14 G1 Intel20S0 20S11,200150185225266
T14 G1 Ryzen20UD 20UE405194263357429
T14 Healthcare
/ Secure Access
20S2 20S3265–224–
T14 G2 Intel20W0 20W11,070200258366419
T14 G2 Ryzen20XK 20XL225206300380500
  • Prices researched on June 20th 2026.
    • WAIT I forgot about the healthcare editions, those were on October 8th 2026
  • T490
    • All Way cheaper because libre? honestly? lol small seller linked, mid/low prices.
  • T490 Whiskey
  • T490 Comet
    • insane price increase. Linked a mid price seller, M$ refurbished.
  • T490 HealthCare / Secure Access
    • Added to TPG πŸ™‚
    • There probably is one out there, just gotta sift thrugh and find that big ass fingerprint reader.
  • T495
  • T14 G1 Intel
  • T14 G1 Ryzen
  • T14 Healthcare / Secure Access
    • added this to TPG
      • Wow found a few… guess this search works.
  • T14 G2 Intel
    • No notes
  • T14 G2 Ryzen
    • Was drinking 6/20 so um yeah commentary is meh cuz girl on my dick
      • ok idk why I wrote that

What to look out for? Idk much about these, my T14s G1 is a fuckin lul tho… I forgot about the secure access, so I would like to nab one cheap, just for that silly fingerprint and RFID thingy, which the latter used to be standard on 600, T2x & 770 ThinkPads. Lenovo dropped the A series and just added a 5 to signify their AMD system. I think they had done that at the very beginning with their E/Edge systems. Soldered RAM was implemented on the T490 series, but with one slot available. On the Intel units, you could get a dedicated graphics card, but on AMD units, you could only get an iGPU. The good thing is that these are all NVMe 4×4, so even tho its one drive, you have speeds finally from the X1 Carbon Gen 4 and… well idk which T4xxs went 4v4. Whatevs.

Modern T14 Series 16:10 Display

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T14 G3 Intel21AH 21AJ447300355455513
T14 G3 AMD21CF 21CG47340405534589
T14 G4 Intel21HD 21HE70418510670850
T14 G4 AMD21K3 21K461413500620770
T14 G5 Intel21ML 21MM178600687800980
T14 G5 AMD21MC 21MD1706007908801,030
T14 G6 Intel ARL21QC 21QD738008701,2341,400
T14 G6 Intel LNL21QG 21QH279191,1491,2661,496
T14 G6 AMD21QJ 21QK338161,0291,3871,625
T14 G7 Intel21WN 21WQ02,2403,0004,000–
T14 G7 AMD Hawk22AL 22AM01,640–––
T14 G7 AMD Gorgon21WV 21WW0––––
  • Prices researched from June 20th to July 12th 2026.
  • T14 G3 Intel
    • no notes
  • T14 G3 AMD
    • no notes
  • T14 G4 Intel
    • no notes
  • T14 G4 AMD
    • for once AMD is cheaper.
  • T14 G5 Intel
    • added to the TPG guide πŸ™‚
  • T14 G5 AMD
    • added
  • T14 G6 Intel ARL
    • Just added… fucking annoying CPUs. Some sold as low as $600, scams are below tha ttho. linked cheap seller
  • T14 G6 Intel LNL
    • $750 lowest no scams if possible. mid price seller linked
  • T14 G6 AMD
  • T14 G7 Intel
    • Too new I guess
  • T14 G7 AMD Hawk
    • None either, general search
  • dGPU?
    • T14 Intel Gen 3 & Gen 4 have that as an option
      • 2GB on G4, or 4GB on G4, that is kinda a lot
        • same MX550 chip tho
    • Integrated graphics on all AMD systems, then G5 Intel & onwards
  • Memory infos
    • Soldered RAM
      • T14 AMD G3 & G4 LPDDR5
      • T13 Intel G4 in some cases
      • T14 Intel G6 Lunar Lake models only
        • This is memory on the processor, so aimed towards Apple M series CPUs
          • Arguably, this is probably an advantage, tho it has one less Video output than other CPUs & laptops
      • T14 Intel G3 on 13x0P Processors
        • These also are the only ones with dedicated graphics!
    • 1 Slot & Soldered RAM
      • T14 G3 Intel DDR4
      • T14 Intel G3 non P (non dGPU)
        • Some machines have DDR4, others have DDR5 lol
          • I am not going to separate, I wanna finish this blog today πŸ™‚
            • LMAO THE BUCCS BEAT DALLAS, THEY WERE 0-4!!!
    • 2 Slots
      • T14 G5 Intel & AMD DDR5
      • T14 G6 Intel & AMD DDR5 (so long as its not lunar lake intel)
      • T14 G7 AMD models DDR5
    • LPCAMM2
      • T14 G7 Intel
        • 8533 MT/s speed
        • LPDDR5X
          • Finally it has came, but not on AMD? bc cheapness? idk

I will not get into displays n shit… WUXGA IPS default, then some slightly better panel with higher contrast ratio and then you have WQUXGA as well.
Gen 5 systems brought a 2.8K OLED as an option, I think G6 had touch screen on the OLED and then on G7 they uppped it with 120Hz screens, 500 Nits instead of 400 Nits and VRR. Unless the seller proclaims it, just think you hit the lotto if you win an auction or BIN and its OLED. I would go for it!!!

I personally have not used any of these systems. And really I shouldn’t, I have my powerhouse 17″ MSI gamer laptop. I have a T14 Gen 1, I have some other 15.6″ MSI laptop that has a fucking shitty wifi card that dies, and then I drunkenly bought a Zbook G8 FireFly 15… cucked myself on this purchase. Even when it comes to the 15″ machines, I would rather have a P Variant, but when I go from there, I won’t be able to have that badass refresh rate…

AHEM… with that said. IF I WOULD, say drunkenly buy one for a good price ($100 to $200) impossibly I would like to get the G6 Lunar Lake model so I can see how well that Memory on Chip is. If not, maybe the 4GB dGPU G4 Intel. But thats just me, not you, you go buy what you want and use this guide for prices… not really advice lol (these words are here for SEO

Budget series

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
S43033640––––
S43120AX 20BA0––––
S44020AY0–88160–
  • S430
    • Saw an E431 sold for 150… yuck
  • S431
    • None sold or available
  • S440
    • None sold
    • Mid price is a TPG10 sold item
    • High price is an avail listing…..
      • Avail unit is a Cracked glass screen, seller linked.
      • Theres another one they got selling for more, but that price is stupid & I wont consider it EX+.
ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
L45020DS 20DT224570110132
L46020FU 20FV386085140175
L470 All4250117173204
L470 ‘Sky’20J4 10J5105895130190
L470 ‘Kaby’20JU 20JV2759116173200
L48020LS 20LT8390115130206
L480 Kaby–756120130–
L480 Kaby R–8396120200237
L49020Q5 20Q69598131270360
L14 G1 Intel20U1 20U2179117185211350
L14 G1 Ryzen20U5 20U688143175240322
L14 G2 Intel20X1 20X2190150195230280
L14 G2 Ryzen20X4 20X658170220340529
L14 G3 Intel21C1 21C261250330390479
L14 G3 AMD21C5 21C637160231338420
L14 G4 Intel21H1 21H242275327516592
L14 G4 AMD21H5 21H671250300370490
L14 G5 Intel21L1 21L232390450650770
L14 G5 AMD21L5 21L628349431589700
L14 G6 Intel21S6 21S79510602719824
L14 G6
AMD Hawk
21S8 21S94500564600810
L14 G6
AMD Kraken
21SE 21SF1–––962
L14 G7 Intel21X2 21X302,693––3,557
L14 G7 AMD21X6 21X701,600––3,380
  • L450
    • Linked high price lot listing UK seller w/ yorup site.
  • L460
    • Linked seller had like 6 of these in mid price.
  • L470 All
    • I thought i was tripping, kept on droppong on non USA listings lol nah 36 sold in usa.
    • Linked seller has some good deals, low price on L480 πŸ™‚
  • L470 ‘Sky’
  • L470 ‘Kaby’
  • L480
    • A lot of Best offer taken. Linked a german seller w/ UK tag. mid price they are, mmmm – yoda
  • L480 Kaby
  • L480 Kaby R
    • 18 lot listings, expect paying $70+ each if you want to go that route. linked a seller
  • &_blrs=recall_filtering
  • L490 23 lot listings, so thats probably fucking up the search… maybe 190 for high then. eh. few around here not lot lstings… assume $40+ if u go that route.
  • L14 G1 Intel
  • L14 G1 Ryzen
  • L14 G2 Intel
  • L14 G2 Ryzen
  • L14 G3 Intel
  • L14 G3 AMD
    • Spark it! High price seller linked, ebay refurbished. they had 120 sold listings from here.
    • shid looks good tbh R5 5675U, 16GB, 256GB.
      • Weird, it has a 1 year warranty via Allstate (um ok?) but in the listing title it says 4Yr Wrt and in the description. Then someBS about the warranty from thedescrption. whatever…
  • L14 G4 Intel
  • L14 G4 AMD
    • 40 of these sold from various EPC sites. Vegas, PA, Sales, SC.
      • EPC… idk who to link.
  • L14 G5 Intel
    • Jesus christ… 2 months I stopped this, sorry. Few NIB machines b4 high price if you do it right.
  • L14 G5 AMD
  • L14 G6
    • Intel Mid price seller link, guess they are a chain, saw another sold one by a similar name but different city.
  • L14 G6 AMD Hawk
    • My tism may have overdone the search, bc I only have so many results.
    • Just the Pro 215 CPU (mid tier) is the only one sold out of the 4 options.
  • L14 G6 AMD Kraken
    • One result, either i fucked up or there’s not many.
  • L14 G7 Intel
    • No sold listings
      • A gen 2 system sold… but I’ll keep the search for next time.
      • Starting and EX+ avail prices from listed items.
  • L14 G7 AMD
    • No sold listings
      • Lowest and EX+ avail listing posted.

Pretend this W550s is a T550 (same chassis)
At the Saguaro in Palm Springs <3

15″ T Series

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T55020CJ 20CK1876118175220
T56020FH 20FJ9980109180275
T570 all20H9 20HA
20JW 20JX
10470111170280
T570 Sky20JW 20JX296589125230
T570 Kaby20H9 20HA6370111170240
T580 Kaby20LA 20L92–128–270
T580 Kaby R266130165219297
T580 Libre3–280565684
T59020N4 20N5281124170220300
T15 G120S6 20S7421160213250320
T15 G220W4 20W5496175270350400
  • T580 Libre
    • New to guide. Linked the EX+ seller, respectsyourtech somehow not the priciest.
  • T590
    • Low price seller linked.
  • T15 G1
    • Mid price seller linked, lotta laptops.

Sorry, i don’t have anything to write about these models. You either go for the 14″ standard, want a small sleek 12 or (i guess) 13.3″ machine… if you’re going 15″, might as well try to get Workstation. YES I’ve had 15″ shitboxes in the past (literally typing on a Zbook G8 FireFly which has a fucking iGPU) But these T series I got nuffin to want about them. The W550s literally is everything I need from a 15″ ThinkPad of this era, I have replaced it with a lil gaming laptop and this FireFly… except well it doesn’t have a 3K display…. Shit I forgot I wanted a P50 for a bit, so I have a shitty P51 with base model and my dad has a P50 with locked bios that I had. Way fucking awesome build quality, ok so I dont recommend the T Series if you go up against that, esp when its NVMe 4×4 w/ multiple drives and ur fucked iwth one or two drives and 2242 bs.

For screens I know that the T540p thru T560p offered the 15.5″ 3K panel, which is nice on the W550s. I think T570 and later had 4K optional but don’t quote me on that. Ill have to do panel research another day (maybe when I do on the P series… wait no :P)

Oh yeah, there was no A Series 15″ models, those were only in the 12″ and 14″ form factors, honestly I really don’t know why. Maybe their L and E Series was just too good. I mean they didnt offer AMD on the G1 or G2 systems. Heck when they went to 16″, they just skipped AMD on gen 3, oh well.

16″ 16:10 T Series

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
T16 G1 Intel21BV 21BW141350430500640
T16 G1 AMD21CH 21CJ16358450652770
T16 G2 Intel21HH 21HJ91432542650864
T16 G2 AMD21K7 21K835468631892975
T16 G3 Intel21MN 21MQ697008309991,144
T16 Intel G421QE 21QF
22AW 22AX
328909901,2501,580
T16 AMD G421QN 21QQ329201,0281,2001,300
T16 Intel G521WT 21WU41,2501,8601,9402,171
T16 AMD G521WX 21WY
22AN 22AQ
31,0131,1601,520–
  • T16 G1 Intel
  • T16 G1 AMD
  • T16 AMD G5
    • Crazy these are cheaper than the Intel models

Although these are bigger laptops than the 14″, they still have one fucking hard drive… ugh. And all of them are Integrated graphics, except the Intels G1 & G2 which had dGPU optional, so good luck with that! Not getting into the RAM crap, its similar to the 14″ models, even some have a soldered slot. what the fuck?!

I didnt separate those with Lunar Lake Intel or Gorgon Point AMD, they are all the same search… maybe if there’s a lot then I would. Me doing it for skylake/kaby lake was just OCD, but honestly the performance gains were there… on these? well yeah, but I mean, i gotta be shilled enough for it (I stopped reading ThinkPad Generals on 4chan, Discord or TP forums).

Budget models

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
S53120B00––––
S54020B30––––

Nothing at all, oh well πŸ™‚

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
L56020F1 20F2227180110–
L570 All20J8 20J9
20JQ 20JR
1885120152239
L470 Sky20JQ 20RJ485120125155
L570 Kaby20J8 20J91190132152170
L58020LW 20LX4677112142215
L59020Q7 20Q84685115178260
L15 Intel20U3 20U4138126193222325
L15 AMD20U7 20U857180210250428
L15 G2 Intel20X3 20X4158175243300467
L15 G2 AMD20X7 20X841220255329420

There was no L550, I have no idea why. Well lenovo botched their xx40 series launch, maybe that had something to do with it. Too many people buying the xx30 systems and not much on the xx40. These still had TN HD panels as their base and you could get FHD IPS as an option, but no fancy 3K or UHD displays.

ModelMTMSoldLowMidHighEX+
L15 G3 Intel21C3 21C460210275380490
L15 G3 AMD21C7 21C849240271371400
L15 G4 Intel21H3 21H422231365463640
L15 G4 AMD21H7 21H811325360420530
16″
L16 G1 Intel21LE 21L412384520687900
L16 G1 AMD21L7 21L86300416533–
L16 G2 Intel21SA 21SB177009001,3001,490
L16 G2 AMD21RH 21RJ 21SC 21SD1662
L16 G3 Intel21X8 21X90–2,2223,0003,449
L16 G3 AMD21XC 21XD0–1,8102,4503,119
  • L15 G3 Intel
  • L15 G3 AMD
  • L15 G4 Intel
  • L15 G4 AMD
    • EX+ Seller linked
  • L16 G2 Intel
  • L16 G2 AMD
    • Seller linked, they are new, so maybe illl check another time.
  • L16 G3 Intel
    • None sold nor any available in the US, linked an Aussie seller.
  • L16 G3 AMD
    • None avail in USA, only overseas.
    • I may have to update this search bc itll conflict w/ G2 bc they share some of the same AMD Gorgon Point processors.
    • Linked a german seller πŸ™‚

In 2022 when Lenovo launched the 16″ Z Series (and went 16:10 on most of their line up), they didn’t launch the L series to be that size or form factor either. Maybe it was because the 15.6″ 16:9 panels were cheap, but there was also the launch of the Z Series Z16 model. That was an oddball indeed, ultrabook, cheap, but no trackpoint. So for two model years the L series stayed 15.6″, but on the third year, the L Series went to 16″. Hence the T16 G3 lines up with the L16 G1, but if we are on the 14″ models, then the L16 G4 and T14 G4 are similar platforms & specs. Anywho when the L16 came out… there was no Z16 G3, I think the no trackpoint was a slump, and maybe “gen Z” didn’t care for it. With that said, there’s still an ultrabook 16″ market, but I think the P16s AMD series needed to secure that.

P51 playing league of LegendsW550s on ebayT460p on some bullshit
Eva taking defense of  a 770, Some toshiba, a T42, 500, T41 & R60?

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